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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4259802, member: 237"] For sure. Everything is relative as well. Jokic has a massive mismatch because of his size every game except maybe a few teams. Melo size and athleticism size had really no real advantage. Now that is what is in making some players a step above the rest of course. Jokic did join a franchise at a much different point and with much different expectations than say Melo did. Had Melo joined Detroit you could argue it could have elevated his game all around more and who knows. Again all relative random what if arguments. Jokic is a rare player/Unicorn. He is what people expected of Porzingis to some extent. I love Jokics game and think he is great for the game. In 5 years at this rate he should get them a title. To me he is the natural evolution of a guy like Duncan now being an all around player vs just being a HOF mid post and post big [/QUOTE]