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Message: [QUOTE="Knicks411, post: 4259902, member: 767"] I don't think so. The closest we've really come is that year with Russ, and I wouldn't consider triple doubles to be a nerd stat in the way I assume you mean it. Mainly because I would contend it's basically impossible for a guy to rank that well in the advanced metrics and play for a team that wins low 40s. Not in the way it happens in baseball at least (Im sure someone can show me where I am wrong though) Also. I mean, Jokic averaged 27-14-8. I'd say those are usually the kind of traditional stats that get you the MVP but it had never been done before so hard to say. I was just looking at the Denver stats; Aaron Gordon was second on the team in minutes. Solid player. Not great, but solid. Will Barton was third. Monte Morris 4th. Jeff Green 5th. Pretty brutal [/QUOTE]