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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 317730, member: 289"] They were better than we were in the 70's but not in the 90's. But it didn't make much difference on the scoreboard: [url]http://football.stassen.com/cgi-bin/records/opp-opp.pl?start=1869&end=2011&team1=Syracuse&team2=North+Carolina+State[/url] The 17-38 game was the single most disgusting loss I've ever endured as an SU sports fan. We had lost by one point to Tennessee on a controversial call in the opener and still had a shot at the first ever BCS title game and the Heisman trophy if we ran the table. And we totaly laid an egg. I was in a dark mood for days after that. Someday- hopefully soon- we'll get our first ever win over those guys and I'll remember that Thursday night in Raleigh. :mad: [/QUOTE]