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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 3785648, member: 237"] When you look at program stability, having "been there" and results, the IL result shouldn't be that surprising in the bigger picture. Ohio St was more surprising to me. Other upsets fall in line when you look at TX too. IL was 21-10 last year and 12-21 the year before. That is a big jump a lot of it talent related but success isn't common with that program. For that reason Iowa is another team that it wouldn't shock me to see go down early. The better more experienced programs generally do better than those catching lightning in a bottle. We always have surprises but overall you will find high seeded teams with mediocre to bad seasons nearby in the past crash earlier. [/QUOTE]