NCAA Initial Eligibility Toolkit

[LeMoyneCuse]

With Marquis Blair not qualifying, I thought this would be a good time to put the requirements for qualification online. These are the standards everyone must meet.

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/resources/division-i-initial-eligibility-toolkit

 

[Cheriehoop]

With Marquis Blair not qualifying, I thought this would be a good time to put the requirements for qualification online. These are the standards everyone must meet.

http://www.ncaa.org/student-athletes/resources/division-i-initial-eligibility-toolkit

Sounds cut and dry from their website but with all the clearinghouse issues not just with SU, this eligibility course listing couldn't be detailed enough and has to be misleading. It appears that the NCAA is disallowing courses taken in high school but I don't see many details that show clearly defined requirements stated for specific courses unless I'm missing it somehow.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

Sounds cut and dry from their website but with all the clearinghouse issues not just with SU, this eligibility course listing couldn't be detailed enough and has to be misleading. It appears that the NCAA is disallowing courses taken in high school but I don't see many details that show clearly defined requirements stated for specific courses unless I'm missing it somehow.

10 out of 16 courses need to be completed before the start of senior year. If Blair is 5 credits short, I wonder if that's the sticking point.

 

[Cheriehoop]

10 out of 16 courses need to be completed before the start of senior year. If Blair is 5 credits short, I wonder if that's the sticking point.

You'd think that would have been known at least a year ago. Wonder if their definition of "years" or" semesters "start or end with summer sessions? I would think they'd end with them but I don't see where it says anything. Strange that eligibility is so contentious and needs months of scrutiny.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

You'd think that would have been known at least a year ago. Wonder if their definition of "years" or" semesters "start or end with summer sessions? I would think they'd end with them but I don't see where it says anything. Strange that eligibility is so contentious.

Maybe they did know and the NCAA wouldn't accept all of the extra work he did (i.e., 10 passed classes).

 

[upperdeck]

how does it work even in ny state? you could in theory fail several classes and take the regents your SR year and suddenly you would pass them but would that not make you eligible since you didnt pass 10 before your SR year?

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

how does it work even in ny state? you could in theory fail several classes and take the regents your SR year and suddenly you would pass them but would that not make you eligible since you didnt pass 10 before your SR year?

As Jake said in the Blair thread, the "10 before your senior year rule" seems to be a test to make sure a player is capable and willing to do all of the work when there isn't the incentive to do so. Or that someone isn't doing the work for him.

 

[Cheriehoop]

Maybe they did know and the NCAA wouldn't accept all of the extra work he did (i.e., 10 passed classes).

The last part is what confuses me. Either the classes were taken or they weren't and successfully completed within the timeframe - or not. I wonder why it needs interpretation, rulings etc resulting in so much stress and confusion? Asking for class syllabuses etc seems to be getting into an extra scope not noted in their website.

 

[LeMoyneCuse]

The last part is what confuses me. Either the classes were taken or they weren't and successfully completed within the timeframe - or not. I wonder why it needs interpretation, rulings etc resulting in so much stress and confusion? Asking for class syllabuses etc seems to be getting into an extra scope not noted in their website.

Or they knew he wouldn't qualify, had him make up all of the work, and put the ball in the NCAA's court? There's no way to make the NCAA say yes if all course work hasn't been finished.

 

[DeGrozz]

I'd guess that there'd be confusion around what courses truly meet the NCAAs standards.

Say you take an Algebra and Geometry class Sophomore and Junior year. Then, your senior year you take a high school Finance class. Depending on your school's/state's requirements, that may be an acceptable math course to get your three math credits, but according to the NCAA that may not be sufficient.

If something like that was all that was holding up playing in college, I'd be selling pitchforks and torches while trying to raise a mob in Armory Square. But what I read was that he was 5 credits short. If that means that NCAA requirements were not met for 5 of his courses (and I may be completely wrong assuming that), who else do you have to blame but the student?

(Granted, I know there are extenuating circumstances where students do not always get the learning tools and support that they need in the classroom -- I typed this assuming that this was not one of those cases.)

 

[xc84]

I think the claim here is that the kid took the courses but the NCAA didn't deem them credit worthy.