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Message: [QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4218930, member: 1969"] What happened was probably a combination of all the factors you noted. Luck has probably been a factor in them doing so well, but not a big factor in them doing well in general. And don't rule out conspiracy when it comes to Duke!! I think part of the problem is that people want to ignore that the following two items do not need to be mutually exclusive 1) The ACC has had a great NCAA tournament and overall this means it had a good year 2) The ACC had a down, historically horrible by their standards regular season (as the regular season does include all basketball The argument we have for the ACC is that despite the occurence of #2, it does not preclude #1 from happening either. And part of that is due to those factors you noted. [/QUOTE]