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[QUOTE="jncuse, post: 4219571, member: 1969"]
You can argue its all about the post-season.   I don't really agree, but at the same time there is some strong arguments for your position (and against it),  It is also somewhat about one's perspective, opinion and how one enjoys the college basketball season and what it values.  It will not be the same for everyone.

But herein lies the rub for Syracuse and why early season is clearly relevant for the ACC - actually highly relevant for Syracuse right now.   Because you have to get in the tournament to do damage in it.

If we were the consistent top 4 in conference school or consistent top 25 program year after year it really wouldn't matter much what the rest of the conference does when it plays others.   May move us up or down a few seed lines but not that relevant once the ball hits the floor in March.    Let's hope we can get back to that level soon.

But we are not at that level right now.   Have not been there since 2014.    Other than 2014 we are largely a middle of the pack ACC team.    When the ACC does well out of conference it helps us to get in the tournament, and when the ACC does bad out of conference it will hurt our ability to get in the tournament.

And its not only about how the good teams do.   The level of stupidity the bottom of our conference (and even the middle) did in November and December was off the charts bad for the ACC historically and even really bad for any P5 school hisrorically (excluding Pac12).     Separate post on that is coming..
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