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Message: [QUOTE="Dick_in_MI, post: 4249416, member: 225"] Yep. If you look back many years ago, there were always a number of schools in the Top 20 that no longer compete at the P5 level. The Ivys, certainly, but other schools as well. At some point those schools decided that the financial arms race needed to be a player in what was essentially the entertainment business did not align with their true mission as an educational institution. There is another wakeup call for many others looming on the horizon. [/QUOTE]