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Message: [QUOTE="Hoo's That, post: 4249899, member: 3609"] You need to put UVa and ND in the "No" group because the "play for pay" division will not require players to go to class and that's a mile-wide Red Line that won't be crossed by either. UVa football no longer has the boosters willing to write big checks that basketball has. There was one, but he died. It took a really long while for an anonymous alum to put up $40M toward the new football building, while Paul Tudor Jones readily stepped forward with his checkbook to build the b-ball arena. I'm not 100% sold on UCLA, Purdue, or Wisconsin as being in the "play for pay" division, especially if the players don't have to go to class. [/QUOTE]