ND Game - The good news

[CuseOnly]

is that I think we gave the blueprint as to how to beat ND, turn them over and pressure Golston which he seemed not too happy about. If we had a few better/faster athletes we could have won that game.

We have at least provided a way for a more talented team to smoke them which I would be pretty happy about. I want them out of contention for the playoff tout de suite.

 

[007]

is that I think we gave the blueprint as to how to beat ND, turn them over and pressure Golston which he seemed not too happy about. If we had a few better/faster athletes we could have won that game.

We have at least provided a way for a more talented team to smoke them which I would be pretty happy about. I want them out of contention for the playoff tout de suite.

I agree with your point that we showed ND does not have a prolific offense.

Allowing 362 passing yards, 4 TDs and 25 completions in a row is a lot of things, but a blueprint for beating ND is not one of them. More like a blueprint for disaster. Golston played best when we pressured him.

As for making turnovers a part of the blueprint, does anybody anywhere go into a game with a plan to try not to get turnovers?

 

[ORANGEsPHK]

Golston completed all those passes because they had him throw quick outs and slants to get the ball out before the pressure could get to him. It was a good adjustment to our D philosophy since we don't have the coverage on these quick throws while blitzing all the time. Also, their bubble screens worked because the blocking WRs got out onto the DBs; in contrast, on our bubble screens I saw their DBs free to dodge the WR's and get to the runner. Our WR's need to do a better job getting to the DBs for our screens to work.

At least that's what I remember from several plays. Maybe it was just talent, what do I know. We just didn't execute as well as UND did.

 

[upperdeck]

our issue was that we needed to attack with extra bodies to get pressure.. had we been able to get pressure with just a dline we could have played different on the back end to stop the swing/screen pass stuff. the fact the other than one play action mistake very little ND did worked other than the screen pass and a few Golston runs early

 

[AZOrange]

I agree with your point that we showed ND does not have a prolific offense.

Allowing 362 passing yards, 4 TDs and 25 completions in a row is a lot of things, but a blueprint for beating ND is not one of them. More like a blueprint for disaster. Golston played best when we pressured him.

As for making turnovers a part of the blueprint, does anybody anywhere go into a game with a plan to try not to get turnovers?

Damn...I was typing a nearly identical post before i saw this. Here's how you beat nd. Get 5 turnovers. Limit them to 450 yards instead of 520...

 

[TheCusian]

I agree with your point that we showed ND does not have a prolific offense. Allowing 362 passing yards, 4 TDs and 25 completions in a row is a lot of things, but a blueprint for beating ND is not one of them. More like a blueprint for disaster. Golston played best when we pressured him. As for making turnovers a part of the blueprint, does anybody anywhere go into a game with a plan to try not to get turnovers?

Agree with everything but that we didn't rattle Golston. He coughed up two interceptions because he was confused by our D. The fumble we didn't get was due to the being the jelly in a Zeke/Lynch sandwich. They were forced to run and do quick screens all game. On the deep ball - our converted WR was taught a lesson.

 

[TerryD]

Agree with everything but that we didn't rattle Golston. He coughed up two interceptions because he was confused by our D. The fumble we didn't get was due to the being the jelly in a Zeke/Lynch sandwich. They were forced to run and do quick screens all game. On the deep ball - our converted WR was taught a lesson.

I am normally not big on grammar on message boards, but the ND QB's name is Everett Golson, not Golston or some other misspelling.

It seems that ND coaches and players get their names misspelled a lot "Charlie Weiss (Weis)", Bob Davies (Davie), etc...

 

[TheCusian]

I am normally not big on grammar on message boards, but the ND QB's name is Everett Golson, not Golston or some other misspelling. It seems that ND coaches and players get their names misspelled a lot "Charlie Weiss (Weis)", Bob Davies (Davie), etc...

This is the only post I've misspelled it - phone must have corrected it.

And no offense, but coming onto our board and correcting spelling is kind of lame. We can call him whatever we like.

 

[storange]

I am normally not big on grammar on message boards, but the ND QB's name is Everett Golson, not Golston or some other misspelling.

It seems that ND coaches and players get their names misspelled a lot "Charlie Weiss (Weis)", Bob Davies (Davie), etc...

Don't care a rats ass about the spelling of Noter Dammes players

 

[sufandu]

I agree with your point that we showed ND does not have a prolific offense.

Allowing 362 passing yards, 4 TDs and 25 completions in a row is a lot of things, but a blueprint for beating ND is not one of them. More like a blueprint for disaster. Golston played best when we pressured him.

As for making turnovers a part of the blueprint, does anybody anywhere go into a game with a plan to try not to get turnovers?

I'll reiterate what I said in another thread. You can't coach a defense to force the QB to fumble an attempted spike or to prevent him or other players from tucking the ball away when they run. So I'm not so sure how we provided a blueprint for anyone.

 

[CusefanATL]

on our bubble screens I saw their DBs free to dodge the WR's and get to the runner. Our WR's need to do a better job getting to the DBs for our screens to work.

COUGH COUGH JARED WEST COUGH COUGH

 

[TheCusian]

I'll reiterate what I said in another thread. You can't coach a defense to force the QB to fumble and attempted spike or to prevent him or other players from tucking the ball away when they run.

The attempted spike is on Ghoulston. But you can absolutely coach a defense to strip the ball, put a helmet on the ball, and/or look for a player carrying the thing away from his body. The D coaches said they practice these drills every day - and the ND game - they saw a lot of what they practice on film.

 

[Crusty]

I am normally not big on grammar on message boards, but the ND QB's name is Everett Golson, not Golston or some other misspelling.

It seems that ND coaches and players get their names misspelled a lot "Charlie Weiss (Weis)", Bob Davies (Davie), etc...

Screw ND and their names.

 

[Crusty]

is that I think we gave the blueprint as to how to beat ND, turn them over and pressure Golston which he seemed not too happy about. If we had a few better/faster athletes we could have won that game.

We have at least provided a way for a more talented team to smoke them which I would be pretty happy about. I want them out of contention for the playoff tout de suite.

More importantly ND gave everyone the blueprint to be us - if they didn't already know.

 

[sufandu]

The attempted spike is on Ghoulston. But you can absolutely coach a defense to strip the ball, put a helmet on the ball, and/or look for a player carrying the thing away from his body. The D coaches said they practice these drills every day - and the ND game - they saw a lot of what they practice on film.

Sure, you can coach the kids to be aware, but if Golson and Bryant carry the ball properly, those probably aren't fumbles. Especially Bryant, since he was carrying the ball like he was in the wide open.

 

[TheCusian]

Sure, you can coach the kids to be aware, but if Golson and Bryant carry the ball properly, those probably aren't fumbles. Especially Bryant, since he was carrying the ball like he was in the wide open.

Sure. All TO's are like that though. You still have to take advantage of them.

Evan Ghoulson overthrew his guy - but Reddish still made a great play by being in position and diving for it.

 

[sufandu]

Sure. All TO's are like that though. You still have to take advantage of them.

Evan Ghoulson overthrew his guy - but Reddish still made a great play by being in position and diving for it.

I don't disagree, but that's different than establishing a "blueprint" for other teams to follow, as the OP suggested.

 

[TheCusian]

I don't disagree, but that's different than establishing a "blueprint" for other teams to follow, as the OP suggested.

Good point.

I would simply take it like this: apply pressure, hit Guulstin, and look for the ball.

 

[sufandu]

Good point.

I would simply take it like this: apply pressure, hit Guulstin, and look for the ball.

Yup, sounds like every defense's blueprint for every game.

 

[TheCusian]

Yup, sounds like every defense's blueprint for every game.

Not so. Our defense is predicated on constant extra pressure leading to TO's. Not everyone shares that philosophy.

 

[CuseOnly]

More importantly ND gave everyone the blueprint to be us - if they didn't already know.

Not disagreeing with you but that team would also have to have the athletes ND has and only 2 teams from here on out have those type of athletes. FSU and Clemson do, everyone else doesn't.

 

[Crusty]

Not disagreeing with you but that team would also have to have the athletes ND has and only 2 teams from here on out have those type of athletes. FSU and Clemson do, everyone else doesn't.

Of course, but Lville orange and Duke might.

 

[CuseOnly]

Of course, but Lville orange and Duke might.

Lville and Duke haven't had 3-5 top 10-15 recruiting classes like ND.