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Nebraska players suing the Big10

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For basically canceling the season. requesting an order to invalidate the Big Ten's decision to not play football this fall.

 
All I can say is good luck gentlemen.

This will either be thrown out immediately or will be tied up in court cases for months. In the end if they do win it will be so far down the line it won’t matter in time to give the kids the chance to play
 
For basically canceling the season. requesting an order to invalidate the Big Ten's decision to not play football this fall.

Do they have standing to challenge the decision at all?

What is their claimed harm? They’re still getting the education, right?

Or are they saying that the real value of the scholarship is in the athletics? Why then do they need to be paid?
 
Do they have standing to challenge the decision at all?

What is their claimed harm? They’re still getting the education, right?

Or are they saying that the real value of the scholarship is in the athletics? Why then do they need to be paid?
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perfect analysis. It’s a complete frivolous suit. I hope school gets their attorneys fees back.
 
There ya go, Nebraska. Stomp your feet, suck your thumb, and throw yourself on the floor like a toddler.

Anyone that doesn't understand or chooses to ignore that this is a judgement call that different leaders will make differently is a moron. There's no guarantee anyone will play and there's certainly no consensus on how this is being handled, with so many other conferences and lower divisions shutting down. The number of conferences giving it a go are in the minority.
 
All I can say is good luck gentlemen.

This will either be thrown out immediately or will be tied up in court cases for months. In the end if they do win it will be so far down the line it won’t matter in time to give the kids the chance to play

I dont think there goal is to win this case. I think that theyre honestly just looking to get this in the news, get free publicity and pressure the big 10
 
So we know now the vote to cancel from the Big Ten was 11-3.
Ohio State, Iowa, Nebraska voted against cancelling.
 
So we know now the vote to cancel from the Big Ten was 11-3.
Ohio State, Iowa, Nebraska voted against cancelling.
1. I can’t believe Ohio State lost a B1G vote.
2. I think it’s hilarious that Nebraska is the squeaky wheel. “Hey, we’re new, have zero fallback options, are a cultural stretch within the conference, and have yet to contribute either academically or athletically since joining, but we’re going to start causing problems.”
3. Didn’t PSU’s AD deny knowledge of a vote? Either he is so far outside of the loop that he didn’t know his school voted *for* cancellation, or his pants are hot, hot, hot.
 
1. I can’t believe Ohio State lost a B1G vote.
2. I think it’s hilarious that Nebraska is the squeaky wheel. “Hey, we’re new, have zero fallback options, are a cultural stretch within the conference, and have yet to contribute either academically or athletically since joining, but we’re going to start causing problems.”
3. Didn’t PSU’s AD deny knowledge of a vote? Either he is so far outside of the loop that he didn’t know his school voted *for* cancellation, or his pants are hot, hot, hot.

Trips to Norman, Stillwater, Ames, Manhattan, Austin sound pretty good right now if I am a Nebby fan.

They even dropped both games against CU when they put them back on the schedule.

I don't know why you'd give up what they had which was owning Texas and the states north of it.
 
Trips to Norman, Stillwater, Ames, Manhattan, Austin sound pretty good right now if I am a Nebby fan.

They even dropped both games against CU when they put them back on the schedule.

I don't know why you'd give up what they had which was owning Texas and the states north of it.
It’s astonishing how far they’ve fallen.

They once owned a major conference and were the premier national program. They’re now pulling Rutgers moves in Rutgers’ conference.
 
So we know now the vote to cancel from the Big Ten was 11-3.
Ohio State, Iowa, Nebraska voted against cancelling.
Iowa hasn't been flexing a lot of muscles in the PR Department. The trainer, the cutting non-revenue sports, COVID numbers .....at least they wanted to protect the football season.
 
Trips to Norman, Stillwater, Ames, Manhattan, Austin sound pretty good right now if I am a Nebby fan.

They even dropped both games against CU when they put them back on the schedule.

I don't know why you'd give up what they had which was owning Texas and the states north of it.
The answer is always $
 
The answer is always $
No it’s not. The answer is often “terrible management.”

There’s an incredible soft benefit to mattering. Nebraska once mattered in their conference. Now they don’t matter in their own division.
 
No it’s not. The answer is often “terrible management.”

There’s an incredible soft benefit to mattering. Nebraska once mattered in their conference. Now they don’t matter in their own division.
I can get on board with that; but what were they chasing? ;)
 
Who said they were chasing anything?
I did. I see that you're not picking up what I'm laying down here. It's all about money. Period. You can argue that in pursuit of that money, mistakes were made... but in the end it all goes back to one thing. This is why several universities were jostling to be the B1G's next choice.
 
1. I can’t believe Ohio State lost a B1G vote.
2. I think it’s hilarious that Nebraska is the squeaky wheel. “Hey, we’re new, have zero fallback options, are a cultural stretch within the conference, and have yet to contribute either academically or athletically since joining, but we’re going to start causing problems.”
3. Didn’t PSU’s AD deny knowledge of a vote? Either he is so far outside of the loop that he didn’t know his school voted *for* cancellation, or his pants are hot, hot, hot.
I agree with your points but, for the record, the Penn State AD is a woman, Sandy Barbour.
 
I did. I see that you're not picking up what I'm laying down here. It's all about money. Period. You can argue that in pursuit of that money, mistakes were made... but in the end it all goes back to one thing. This is why several universities were jostling to be the B1G's next choice.
I get what you’re laying down. It’s just not right.

It’s been years, but if I remember correctly, Nebraska was running from Texas and the LHN - or at least Texas’ pull in the conference.

Also, money isn’t the driver for many decisions. It often gets a nod, but see UAB, see UMD (they burnt incredible bridges with alumni that could very well outweigh the conference payout), see FSU/Clemson/UNC (who likely chose/choose ACC membership over SEC money), see the ACC shunning Miami for 20 years.

Terrible management if often the answer for bad decisions.
 
I get what you’re laying down. It’s just not right.

It’s been years, but if I remember correctly, Nebraska was running from Texas and the LHN - or at least Texas’ pull in the conference.

Also, money isn’t the driver for many decisions. It often gets a nod, but see UAB, see UMD (they burnt incredible bridges with alumni that could very well outweigh the conference payout), see FSU/Clemson/UNC (who likely chose/choose ACC membership over SEC money), see the ACC shunning Miami for 20 years.

Terrible management if often the answer for bad decisions.
You remind me of a younger, more naive version of myself (I suppose that could be a compliment or insult, depending on who you ask). Let's unpack your examples:

see UAB A decision made due to the insane football culture in the south, internal AL politics, and one that will also likely yield significant financial dividends in the end. Don't discount the notoriety that having FBS ball brings to even a C-USA institution. How many upstate New Yorkers would have ever heard of UAB if they weren't NCAA D1? (how many know anyway...)

see FSU/Clemson/UNC (who likely chose/choose ACC membership over SEC money) It's not only about gross conference pay outs; these institutions don't want to be culturally associated with so many of the big southern flagships, land grants, and the reputation of the SEC in general. These schools you mention (except perhaps Clemson, I'll make a special note of them below) have made the calculation that there would be diminishing returns from upping their gross conference pay out from a move such as to the SEC or XII.

see the ACC shunning Miami for 20 years. I'll grant you this since I'm not sure what you're trying to say here; Miami has made out very well financially from their move. Management has been a bit dicey on some fronts, though- is that what you're referring to?

A final note on Nebraska: they were moving upwards both in payout AND the reputation of the conference and institutions that they would be rubbing elbows with. Money, money, money.

As somebody that knows a lot of high-level folks at a Big 12 school and worked with some of them on a daily basis for a few years recently, I can tell you that those administrators readily admitted all of the time that it was all money and only money. That's it. Be all, end all... from the horse's mouth (the horse here being at least two P5 presidents I've spoken with about these very issues). Reputation is money. The name recognition that comes from sports... money. I know a high-placed administrator at Clemson that says they should be SEC... but they feel like they can be king of the hill and make more... you guessed it... money this way in the end.

Everything in academia always goes back to money at some point. Always. Even for the institutions that can afford to be above the fray. Human nature, I suppose.
 
No it’s not. The answer is often “terrible management.”

There’s an incredible soft benefit to mattering. Nebraska once mattered in their conference. Now they don’t matter in their own division.

They also are in the easy division. So got an easier schedule out of the move. Still a train wreck.

Ditto Miami. 16 years now In the ACC in the easy half of the league and the only respectable season they didn’t underachieve was the Dungey drop kick one.

If you have a ‘brand’ you don’t mess with it.

Cuse hoops is teetering take away the UVA comeback and Ennis season and our move to the ACC looks similar. Granted the alternate would be UConn’s situation and folding football.
 
I know a high-placed administrator at Clemson that says they should be SEC... but they feel like they can be king of the hill and make more... you guessed it... money this way in the end.

Please Clemson is a huge school in the south that has had an occasional good team butuntil 6-7 years ago was looking up to the likes of GT.

BC handled them when they joined the ACC with ease.

The SEC wouldn’t have considered them for membership before the Swinney run why add another SCe that is worse.
 
Please Clemson is a huge school in the south that has had an occasional good team butuntil 6-7 years ago was looking up to the likes of GT.

BC handled them when they joined the ACC with ease.

The SEC wouldn’t have considered them for membership before the Swinney run why add another SCe that is worse.
FYI the specific comment from the Clemson guy was made 2015, if I'm keeping my years straight.
 

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