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Message: [QUOTE="Jack Hall, post: 1728696, member: 3962"] I hear you but here is what i struggle with: there really are two issues- pace of play and offensive efficiency. And they are separate issues, ie not nec related. As you point out JB has gone to a much more deliberate (slower) pace in recent years. I am actually ok w that and i love JBs zone. I think JB knows what hes doing with pace of play, ie i trust his judgement because i see it as part of his coaching brilliance. What obviously all us fans would like to see is greater offensive efficiency. ...But much of that is on the players and how they execute....ie JB obviously has more control over pace than he does over efficiency... [/QUOTE]