Net Points 2011-12

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This year I’m including net points information with my post game updates but doing monthly posts breaking the information out so we can chart the trends.

Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.

In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.

M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
(This is through the end of the season. Previous numbers were through the Eastern Michigan game of 11/29/11, the DePaul game of 1/1/12 and the West Virginia game of 1/28/12 and the Connecticut game of 2/25/12)

CENTERS

Fab Melo (His minutes per game are for 30 games due to his academic suspension- or whatever that was.)
25.4M 12.3P 9.2R 1.1A 0.8S 4.6B = 28.0+ 3.9mfg 1.2mft 2.3to 4.5pf = 11.9- = 16.1NP 7.2OE 8.9FG
Previous numbers:
After February:
24.6M 12.8P 9.2R 1.0A 0.7S 5.0B = 28.7+ 4.0mfg 1.1mft 2.3to 4.8pf = 12.2- = 16.5NP 7.1OE 8.8FG
After January
22.6M 12.7P 10.0R 1.2A 0.8S 5.3B = 30.0+ 4.3mfg 1.2mft 2.7to 5.2pf = 13.4- = 16.6NP 7.2OE 9.4FG
After December
22.9M 12.5P 9.6R 1.2A 0.9S 5.5B = 29.7+ 4.3MFG 1.3MFT 2.3TO 4.4PF = 12.3- = 17.4NP 6.9OE 10.5FG
After November
21.4M 10.9P 9.6R 1.1A 1.1S 4.8B = 27.5+ 5.1MFG 1.9MFT 2.7TO 5.1PF = 14.8- = 14.8NP 3.9OE 8.8FG

Rakeem Christmas (I’ll list him among the centers because I think that‘s what he really is)
11.5M 9.6P 10.2R 0.7A 1.0S 2.8B = 24.3+ 3.0MFG 1.1MFT 2.2TO 5.9PF = 12.2- = 12.1NP 5.5OE 6.6FG
Previous numbers:
After February
10.9M 9.8P 10.0R 0.7A 1.1S 2.6B = 24.2+ 3.1MFG 1.2MFT 2.4TO 6.2PF = 12.9- = 11.3NP 5.5OE 5.8FG
After January
12.8M 10.3P 9.9R 0.4A 1.2S 2.6B = 24.4+ 3.3MFG 1.1MFT 2.3TO 6.4PF = 13.1- = 11.3NP 5.9OE 5.4FG
After December
12.6M 11.6P 9.3R 0.2A 1.5S 2.5B = 25.1+ 3.0MFG 1.5MFT 3.0TO 6.3PF = 13.8- = 11.3NP 7.1OE 4.2FG
After November
14.9M 11.5P 10.4R 0.4A 1.2S 1.5B = 25.0+ 3.1MFG 0.8MFT 2.7TO 7.6PF = 12.8- = 12.2NP 7.6OE 4.7FG

Baye Moussa Keita
11.6M 7.4P 8.1R 0.2A 0.6S 3.2B = 19.5+ 1.2MFG 0.7MFT 1.0TO 6.1PF = 9.0- = 10.5NP 5.5OE 5.0FG
Previous numbers:
After February
11.8M 7.8P 8.0R 0.2A 0.8S 3.2B = 20.0+ 1.0MFG 0.8MFT 1.1TO 6.2PF = 9.1- = 10.9NP 6.0OE 4.9FG
After January
12.9M 8.2P 8.4R 0.3A 0.7S 3.4B = 21.0+ 1.1MFG 0.7MFT 1.2TO 5.8PF = 8.8- = 12.2NP 6.4OE 5.8FG
After December
11.5M 10.5P 8.8R 0.5A 0.7S 3.7B = 24.2+ 1.4MFG 1.2MFT 0.9TO 6.0PF = 9.5- = 14.7NP 7.9OE 6.8FG
After November
11.7M 13.7P 10.2R 0.5A 1.0S 3.9B = 29.3+ 0.5MFG 1.5MFT 1.0TO 7.8PF = 10.8- = 18.5NP 11.7OE 6.8FG

Comment: Both Rakeem and Baye showed they can be good college centers from their play in the tournament. People forget that Rak was a highly rated recruit in his own right. I remember when he verballed to Syracuse that the news reports heralded him as the #1 center recruit in the country. He wasn’t that but he’ll be a good player for us. How will these two and DuJuan Coleman- or Nerlens Noel- fit in with these guys? That will be figured out next year.
　
FORWARDS

Kris Joseph
32.2M 16.6P 5.8R 1.9A 1.7S 0.8B = 26.8+ 7.6MFG 1.3MFT 1.8TO 2.1PF = 12.8 = 14.0NP 7.7OE 6.3FG
Previous numbers:
After February
31.2M 18.2P 6.5R 2.1A 1.8S 0.8B = 29.4+ 7.9MFG 1.2MFT 1.6TO 2.1PF = 12.8 = 16.6NP 9.1OE 7.5FG
After January
30.2M 18.1P 6.3R 2.4A 1.8S 0.8B = 29.4+ 7.7MFG 1.2MFT 1.6TO 2.1PF = 12.6 = 16.8NP 9.2OE 7.6FG
After December
28.9M 19.4P 7.2R 2.3A 1.8S 0.8B = 31.5+ 8.6MFG 1.0MFT 1.5TO 2.0PF = 13.1- = 18.4NP 9.8OE 8.6FG
After November
27.1M 21.7P 8.4R 1.9A 2.1S 0.2B = 34.3+ 8.2MFG 1.3MFT 1.9TO 2.9PF = 14.3- = 20.0NP 12.2OE 7.8FG

CJ Fair
26.4M 12.9P 8.1R 1.4A 1.6S 0.7B = 24.7+ 5.4MFG 1.1MFT 1.2TO 2.2PF = 9.9- = 14.8NP 6.4OE 8.4FG
Previous numbers:
After February
27.3M 13.5P 8.2R 1.5A 1.7S 0.9B = 25.8+ 5.5MFG 1.1MFT 1.2TO 2.1PF = 9.9- = 15.9NP 6.9OE 9.0FG
After January
25.1M 13.2P 8.1R 1.4A 1.7S 0.8B = 25.2+ 5.6MFG 1.2MFT 1.4TO 2.0PF = 10.2- = 15.0NP 6.4OE 8.9FG
After December
24.1M 13.5P 8.4R 1.3A 1.9S 0.6B = 25.7+ 5.2MFG 0.7MFT 1.5TO 1.8PF = 9.2- = 16.5NP 7.6OE 8.9FG
After November
24.1M 13.5P 9.9R 1.4A 2.4S 0.7B = 27.9+ 5.2MFG 1.2MFT 1.9TO 1.9PF = 10.2- = 17.7NP 7.1OE 10.6FG

James Southerland
16.0M 17.0P 7.8R 0.9A 2.1S 2.3B = 30.1+ 7.4MFG 0.7MFT 0.8TO 3.3PF = 13.7- = 17.9NP 8.9OE 9.0FG
Previous numbers:
15.1M 17.4P 7.5R 1.1A 2.5S 2.0B = 30.5+ 8.2MFG 0.7MFT 0.9TO 3.2PF = 13.0- = 17.5NP 8.5OE 9.0FG
After January
16.7M 18.5P 7.9R 1.0A 2.1S 2.1B = 31.6+ 7.6MFG 0.8MFT 0.9TO 3.0PF = 12.3- = 19.3NP 10.1OE 9.2FG
After December
16.3M 20.7P 8.0R 1.6A 2.9S 2.3B = 35.5+ 6.2MFG 1.1MFT 0.8TO 2.1PF = 10.2- = 25.3NP 13.4OE 11.9FG
After November
16.4M 25.7P 8.7R 2.1A 3.8S 1.7B = 42.0+ 6.3MFG 0.3MFT 0.3TO 1.4PF = 8.3- = 33.7NP 19.1OE 14.6FG

Comment: Both Kris Joseph and CJ Fair saw significant declines in their numbers after March, (which is hard to do at that point in the season. With Kris is was declines in scoring and rebounding. With CJ it was mostly scoring. James Southerland’s productivity stayed about the same- on the surface. Actually, in March he performed to the net level of his red-shot start and his ice-cold conference season. What’s interesting is that the perception is that shooting is the primary part of his game but his “floor game” was equally important to his scoring, (8.9OE, 9.2FG). He has the highest NP per 40 of anyone on the team. Does that make him our best player. Not necessarily, but per 40 minutes he scored 17 points, grabbed 8 rebounds, and an assist, 2 steals and 2 blocks. If he did that in a game and somebody said that he was the bets player out there that night, you might agree.
　
GUARDS

Scoop Jardine
25.2M 14.1P 3.7R 7.8A 2.1S 0.2B = 27.9+ 6.0MFG 1.3MFT 3.6TO 1.7PF = 12.6- = 15.3NP 6.8OE 8.5FG
Previous numbers:
After February
24.6M 14.4P 3.9R 8.1A 2.4S 0.2B = 29.0+ 6.0MFG 1.5MFT 3.5TO 1.4PF = 12.4- = 16.6NP 6.9OE 9.7FG
After January
23.0M 14.8P 3.7R 8.6A 2.4S 0.2B = 29.7+ 5.7MFG 1.7MFT 3.5TO 1.4PF = 12.3- = 17.4NP 7.4OE 9.9FG
After December
21.3M 16.1P 4.9R 7.3A 3.3S 0.1B = 31.7+ 5.6MFG 1.6MFT 3.9TO 1.3PF = 12.4- = 19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After November
18.4M 15.2P 2.4R 9.0A 3.7S 0.0B = 30.3+ 6.5MFG 2.5MFT 3.7TO 0.9PF = 13.6- = 16.7NP 6.2OE 10.5FG

Brandon Triche
22.5M 16.6P 4.4R 4.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 27.6+ 8.0MFG 0.9MFT 2.4TO 2.4PF = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG
Previous numbers:
After February
22.0M 16.5P 4.3R 4.8A 2.0S 0.2B = 27.8+ 8.1MFG 0.5MFT 2.4TO 2.3PF = 13.3- = 14.5NP 7.9OE 6.6FG
After January
22.4M 18.3P 4.3R 5.1A 2.3S 0.3B = 30.3+ 7.9MFG 0.5MFT 2.4TO 2.2PF = 13.0- = 17.3NP 9.9OE 8.4FG
After December
21.5M 18.3P 4.0R 5.7A 2.1S 0.4B = 30.5+ 8.7MFG 0.5MFT 2.6TO 2.5PF = 14.3- = 16.2NP 9.1OE 7.1FG
After November
21.9M 20.1P 4.4R 6.5A 1.8S 0.5B = 33.3+ 8.6MFG 0.5MFT 3.9TO 2.1PF = 15.1- = 18.2NP 11.0OE 7.2FG

Dion Waiters
24.1M 21.0P 3.8R 4.1A 3.0S 0.5B = 32.4+ 8.4MFG 1.4MFT 2.2TO 3.1PF = 15.1- = 17.3NP 11.2OE 6.1FG
Previous numbers:
After February
23.5M 20.2P 3.9R 4.4A 3.3S 0.6B = 32.4+ 8.6MFG 1.6MFT 2.3TO 2.8PF = 15.3- = 17.1NP 10.0OE 7.1FG
After January
22.5M 21.8P 3.2R 4.6A 4.0S 0.7B = 34.3+ 8.6MFG 1.5MFT 2.5TO 2.9PF = 15.5- = 18.8NP 11.7OE 7.1FG
After December
21.3M 23.6P 3.1R 5.1A 4.0S 0.5B = 36.3+ 8.0MFG 1.5MFT 2.8TO 2.6PF = 14.9- = 21.4NP 14.1OE 7.3FG
After November
22.4M 21.1P 2.8R 6.1A 4.1S 0.8B = 34.9+ 8.4MFG 1.8MFT 2.3TO 3.3PF = 15.8- = 19.1NP 10.9OE 8.2FG

Michael Carter-Willliams
7.3M 10.4P 5.7R 8.0A 3.0S 1.0B = 28.1+ 4.9MFG 1.5MFT 2.4TO 3.7PF = 12.5- = 15.6NP +4.0OE +11.6FG
Previous numbers:
After February
8.6M 10.7P 5.8R 7.8A 2.8S 1.1B = 28.2+ 5.0MFG 1.4MFT 2.3TO 3.3PF = 12.0- = 16.2NP +4.3OE +11.9FG
After January:
10.0M 9.3P 5.6R 7.9A 3.0S 1.0B = 26.8+ 5.4MFG 1.6MFT 2.4TO 3.1PF = 12.5- = 14.3NP +2.3OE +12.0FG
After December
12.9M 8.5P 5.6R 8.1A 3.1S 1.2B = 26.5+ 5.8MFG 1.7MFT 2.5TO 2.9PF = 13.6- = 13.6NP +1.0OE +12.6FG
After November
13.3M 6.9P 6.0R 7.7A 3.9S 1.3B = 25.8+ 7.3MFG 0.9MFT 3.4TO 3.0PF = 14.6- = 11.2NP -1.3OE 12.5FG

Mookie Jones has left the program and played only 38 minutes this season- my cut off for numbers from past seasons is 100 minutes- so I’m not including his numbers.

Comments: The performances of Scoop Jardine and Brandon Triche declined in march, (Scoop had a great NCAA tournament but his slump before then more than cancelled his NCAA numbers out). Dion Waiters was about the same and Michael Carter-Williams didn’t play.

 

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DOPPLEGANGERS

These comparisons to past players are partially based on the numbers and partially on the player. Some matches are hard to make and body-type or game type were considered along with the numbers. I just posted the best match I could find from the numbers on the SU Athletic website, which go back to 1983-84, the Pearl’s freshman year.

Fab Melo
25.4M 12.3P 9.2R 1.1A 0.8S 4.6B = 28.0+ 3.9mfg 1.2mft 2.3to 4.5pf = 11.9- = 16.1NP 7.2OE 8.9FG
Conrad McRae 1991-92
29.4m 11.8p 8.4r 1.2a 2.0s 3.3b +26.7 3.6mfg 2.5mft 1.3to 5.3pf -12.7 = 14.0NP 5.7OE 8.3FG

Rakeem Christmas
11.5M 9.6P 10.2R 0.7A 1.0S 2.8B = 24.3+ 3.0MFG 1.1MFT 2.2TO 5.9PF = 12.2- = 12.1NP 5.5OE 6.6FG
Jeremy McNeil 2001-02
14.7m 9.2p 10.2r 0.3a 1.3s 4.1b +25.1 1.9mfg 1.5mft 2.1to 7.6pf -13.1 = 12.0NP 5.8OE 6.2FG

Baye Moussa Keita
11.6M 7.4P 8.1R 0.2A 0.6S 3.2B = 19.5+ 1.2MFG 0.7MFT 1.0TO 6.1PF = 9.0- = 10.5NP 5.5OE 5.0FG
Jeremy McNeil 2002-03
18.8m 7.1p 8.9r 0.5a 0.5s 6.1b +23.1 1.6mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 6.8pf -11.3 = 11.8NP 4.8OE 7.0FG

Kris Joseph
32.2M 16.6P 5.8R 1.9A 1.7S 0.8B = 26.8+ 7.6MFG 1.3MFT 1.8TO 2.1PF = 12.8 = 14.0NP 7.7OE 6.3FG
Preston Shumpert 1999-2000
20.9m 19.7p 5.7r 1.6a 2.3s 0.2b +29.5 7.4mfg 0.7mft 1.6to 5.7pf -15.4 = 14.1NP 11.6OE 2.5FG

CJ Fair
26.4M 12.9P 8.1R 1.4A 1.6S 0.7B = 24.7+ 5.4MFG 1.1MFT 1.2TO 2.2PF = 9.9- = 14.8NP 6.4OE 8.4FG
Josh Pace 2002-03
14.7m 11.8p 7.3r 5.1a 2.2s 0.7b +27.1 4.8mfg 0.9mft 3.2to 2.8pf -11.7 = 15.4NP 6.1OE 9.3FG

James Southerland
16.0M 17.0P 7.8R 0.9A 2.1S 2.3B = 30.1+ 7.4MFG 0.7MFT 0.8TO 3.3PF = 13.7- = 17.9NP 8.9OE 9.0FG
Demetris Nichols 2006-07
34.8m 21.8p 6.2r 1.8a 1.6s 1.2b 32.6+ 9.1mfg 0.7mft 2.5to 2.4pf 14.7- = 17.9NP 12.0OE 5.9FG or maybe…
Donte Greene 2007-08
35.8m 19.8p 8.0r 2.3a 1.4s 1.8b 33.3+ 9.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9to 3.2pf 17.0- = 16.3NP 8.9OE 7.4FG

Scoop Jardine
25.2M 14.1P 3.7R 7.8A 2.1S 0.2B = 27.9+ 6.0MFG 1.3MFT 3.6TO 1.7PF = 12.6- = 15.3NP 6.8OE 8.5FG
Adrian Autry 1992-93
31.8m 17.2p 4.6r 7.0a 2.5s 0.2b +31.5 8.0mfg 0.9mft 4.4to 3.6pf -16.9 = 14.6NP 8.3OE 6.3FG or maybe…
Pearl Washington 1983-84
34.0m 16.9p 3.1r 7.3a 2.7s 0.1b 30.1+ 5.7mfg 1.7mft 4.1to 4.0pf 15.5- = 14.6np 9.5oe 5.1fg

Brandon Triche
22.5M 16.6P 4.4R 4.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 27.6+ 8.0MFG 0.9MFT 2.4TO 2.4PF = 13.7- = 13.9NP 7.7OE 6.2FG
Greg Monroe 1986-87
31.0m 16.6p 3.2r 5.2a 1.5s 0.0b 25.0+ 6.4mfg 0.6mft 1.8to 1.7pf 10.5- = 14.5NP 9.6OE 4.9FG

Dion Waiters
24.1M 21.0P 3.8R 4.1A 3.0S 0.5B = 32.4+ 8.4MFG 1.4MFT 2.2TO 3.1PF = 15.1- = 17.3NP 11.2OE 6.1FG
Adrian Autry 1993-94
35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 = 16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG or maybe…
Dave Johnson 1990-91
34.9m 22.2p 7.2r 2.7a 1.8s 0.1b +34.0 8.1mfg 2.4mft 2.4to 2.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.7OE 6.6FG

Michael Carter-Williams
7.3M 10.4P 5.7R 8.0A 3.0S 1.0B = 28.1+ 4.9MFG 1.5MFT 2.4TO 3.7PF = 12.5- = 15.6NP +4.0OE +11.6FG
Billy Edelin 2003-04
33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- = 16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG or maybe…
Sherman Douglas 1985-86
11.4m 19.0p 4.3r 7.4a 4.3s 0.7b 35.7+ 4.7mfg 1.7mft 4.3to 4.3pf 15.0- = 20.7NP 12.6OE 8.1FG
Basically, I couldn’t find a match for MCW.

 

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FAMOUS SU PLAYERS OF THE PAST
(1983-84 onward and only their best NP year represented)

CENTERS
Rony Seikaly 27.1m 22.2p 12.0r 1.4a 1.1s 3.0b 39.7+ 6.4mfg 3.7mft 2.9to 4.3pf 17.3- = 22.4NP 12.1OE 10.3FG (1986-87)
LeRon Ellis 29.0m 15.3p 10.6r 1.9a 2.7s 3.4b +33.9 5.9mfg 2.0mft 1.9to 4.7pf -14.5 = 19.4NP 7.4OE 12.0FG (1990-91)
Conrad McRae 30.0m 16.4p 9.2r 0.6a 1.6s 3.6b +31.4 4.9mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 4.3pf -12.3 = 19.1NP 10.5OE 8.6FG (1992-93)
Otis Hill 29.3m 21.3p 8.3r 1.2a 2.3s 1.5b +34.6 7.1mfg 2.3mft 2.7to 4.7pf -16.8 = 17.8NP 8.4OE 9.4FG (1996-97)
Etan Thomas 27.7m 17.7p 10.6r 0.7a 1.2s 5.7b +35.9 4.0mfg 3.5mft 2.5to 4.0pf -14.0 = 21.9NP 10.2OE 11.7FG (1999-2000)
Craig Forth 23.2m 9.8p 10.0r 1.2a 1.0s 3.5b 25.5+ 3.3mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 4.8pf 11.0- = 14.5NP 5.8OE 8.7FG (2003-04)
Darryl Watkins 29.1m 11.1p 10.4r 1.0a 1.7s 4.7b 28.9+ 3.4mfg 1.9mft 2.1to 4.9pf 12.3- = 16.6NP 5.8OE 10.8FG (2006-07)
Arinze Onuaku 22.8M 18.5P 9.0r 1.1a 1.6s 1.9b 32.0+ 4.2mfg 2.2mft 2.4to 4.7pf 13.5- = 18.5NP 12.1OE 6.4FG (2009-10)
　
FORWARDS
Rafael Addison 31.6m 18.9p 7.1r 5.2a 1.6s 0.6b 33.4+ 7.1,fg 0.7mft 2.8to 2.7pf 13.3- = 20.1NP 11.1OE 9.0FG (1985-86)
Wendell Alexis 31.8m 19.1p 9.3r 2.0a 1.7s 1.3b 33.4+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.2to 3.6pf 13.1- = 20.3NP 11.8OE 8.5FG (1985-86)
Derrick Coleman 33.1m 20.4p 13.8r 3.5a 1.5s 4.1b 43.3+ 5.5mfg 2.5mft 2.9to 3.9pf 14.8- = 28.5NP 12.4OE 16.1FG (1988-89)
Billy Owens 38.0m 24.5p 12.2r 3.6a 2.6s 1.2b +44.1 9.0mfg 2.5mft 3.7to 2.8pf -18.0 = 26.1NP 13.0OE 13.1FG (1990-91)
Dave Johnson 34.9m 22.2p 7.2r 2.7a 1.8s 0.1b +34.0 8.1mfg 2.4mft 2.4to 2.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.7OE 6.6FG (1990-91)
Lawrence Moten 34.8m 24.6p 5.2r 2.5a 2.3s 0.7b +35.3 9.4mfg 1.7mft 2.1to 2.5pf -15.7 = 19.6NP 13.5OE 6.1FG (1993-94)
John Wallace 33.0m 20.4p 9.9r 3.1a 1.6s 2.2b +37.2 5.6mfg 2.0mft 3.7to 3.2pf -14.5 = 22.7NP 12.8OE 9.9FG (1994-95)
Todd Burgan 36.7m 19.2p 7.7r 3.6a 2.2s 0.2b +32.9 9.0mfg 1.6mft 3.2to 2.9pf -16.7 = 16.2NP 8.6OE 7.6FG (1997-98)
Ryan Blackwell 35.0m 14.4p 9.4r 2.6a 1.6s 0.4b +28.4 5.8mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.3pf -12.6 = 17.2NP 7.0OE 10.2FG (1997-98)
Eric Williams 12.5m 17.8p 10.9r 3.2a 2.3s 0.9b +35.1 5.9mfg 0.7mft 4.1to 4.3pf -15.0 = 20.1NP 11.2OE 8.9FG (1998-99)
Damone Brown 35.9m 18.3p 9.8r 2.1a 1.9s 1.6b +33.7 7.3mfg 1.1mft 2.3to 3.0pf -13.7 = 20.0NP 9.9OE 10.1FG (2000-01)
Preston Shumpert 36.9m 22.4p 6.6r 2.5a 2.0s 0.5b +34.0 10.1mfg 1.0mft 2.8to 1.8pf -15.7 = 18.3NP 11.3OE 7.0FG (2001-02)
Carmelo Anthony 36.4m 24.4p 11.0r 2.4a 1.7s 0.9b +40.4 10.5mfg 2.2mft 2.4to 2.4pf -17.5 = 22.9NP 11.7OE 11.2FG (2002-03)
Hakim Warrick 37.5m 22.8p 9.2r 1.6a 1.0s 0.8b 35.4+ 6.6mfg 3.1mft 2.7to 2.5pf 14.9- = 20.5NP 13.1OE 7.4FG (2004-05)
Josh Pace 33.3m 13.0p 6.0r 4.5a 1.8s 0.5b 25.8+ 4.5mfg 0.8mft 2.4to 1.9pf 9.6- = 16.2NP 7.7OE 8.5FG (2004-05)
Demetris Nichols 34.8m 21.8p 6.2r 1.8a 1.6s 1.2b 32.6+ 9.1mfg 0.7mft 2.5to 2.4pf 14.7- = 17.9NP 12.0OE 5.9FG (2006-07)
Donte Greene 35.8m 19.8p 8.0r 2.3a 1.4s 1.8b 33.3+ 9.7mfg 1.2mft 2.9to 3.2pf 17.0- = 16.3NP 8.9OE 7.4FG (2007-08)
Paul Harris 30.5m 15.8p 10.5r 2.8a 1.3s 0.9b 31.3+ 5.6mfg 1.5mft 2.8to 2.5pf 12.4- = 18.9NP 8.7OE 10.2FG (2008-09)
Wes Johnson 35.0m 18.9p 9.8r 2.5a 1.9s 2.1b 35.2+ 6.7mfg 1.1mft 2.6to 2.4pf 12.8- = 22.4NP 11.1OE 11.6FG (2009-10)
Rick Jackson 35.6m 14.7p 11.6r 2.5a 1.5s 2.8b 33.1+ 4.3mfg 2.1mft 2.3to 2.3pf 11.0- = 22.1NP 8.3OE 13.8FG (2010-11)


GUARDS
Pearl Washington 32.2m 21.5p 3.1r 9.7a 3.2s 0.0b 37.5+ 7.3mfg 1.8mft 4.1to 3.4pf 16.6- = 20.9NP 12.4OE 8.5FG (1985-86)
Sherman Douglas 32.6m 21.3p 3.1r 9.3a 2.1s 0.2b 36.0+ 7.0mfg 1.7mft 3.9to 2.3pf 14.9- = 21.1NP 12.6OE 8.5FG (1986-87)
Stevie Thompson 33.1m 21.7p 6.0r 2.2a 2.4s 0.5b 32.8+ 5.3mfg 2.7mft 2.6to 2.3pf 12.9- = 19.9NP 13.7OE 6.2FG (1988-89)
Adrian Autry 35.7m 18.7p 5.4r 6.8a 1.8s 0.4b +33.1 8.1mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 2.9pf -16.3 = 16.8NP 9.6OE 7.2FG (1993-94)
Lazarus Sims 35.6m 7.1p 4.1r 8.3a 1.6s 0.1b +21.2 2.9mfg 0.7mft 3.6to 2.2pf -9.4 = 11.8NP 3.5OE 8.3FG (1995-96)
Jason Hart 32.4m 17.2p 3.7r 5.4a 3.8s 0.2b +30.3 9.0mfg 0.9mft 3.9to 3.7pf -17.5 = 12.8NP 7.3OE 5.5FG (1998-99)
Gerry McNamara 35.2m 18.2p 3.1r 6.7a 2.1s 0.1b 30.2+ 10.3mfg, 0.4mft 3.8to 1.5pf 16.0- = 14.2NP 7.5OE 6.7FG (2005-06)
Billy Edelin 33.1m 16.7p 5.1r 6.3a 1.6s 0.1b 29.8+ 6.1mfg 2.3mft 2.4to 2.1pf 12.9- = 16.9NP 8.3OE 8.6FG (2003-04)
Eric Devendorf 34.2m 19.9p 3.0r 4.6a 2.0s 0.5b 30.0+ 8.2mfg 1.1mft 4.0to 3.4pf 16.7- = 13.3NP 10.6OE 2.7FG (2008-09)
Jonny Flynn 37.3m 18.7p 2.9r 7.2a 1.5s 0.2b 30.5+ 7.2mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 1.6pf 13.6- = 16.7NP 10.1 OE 6.6FG (2008-09)
Andy Rautins 32.5m 14.9p 4.2r 6.0a 2.4s 0.3b 27.8+ 5.8mfg 0.5mft 3.4to 2.7pf 12.4- = 15.4NP 8.6OE 6.8FG (2009-10)
　

 

[mark79]

This is great stuff. I love the former player best years. It helps gauge how good they were for us. A couple of surprises to me we're Carmelo and Gmac. Would have thought both would have been higher, especially Gmac.

Seems like 20 is more or less when a player is reaching pro potential. I am still a little surprised rick didn't get more of a sniff. Perhaps his ncca performance scared off some people.

Also amazing is what Jason hart did in the pros with his low net points.

 

[NineOneSeven]

This is great stuff. I love the former player best years. It helps gauge how good they were for us. A couple of surprises to me we're Carmelo and Gmac. Would have thought both would have been higher, especially Gmac.

Seems like 20 is more or less when a player is reaching pro potential. I am still a little surprised rick didn't get more of a sniff. Perhaps his ncca performance scared off some people.

Also amazing is what Jason hart did in the pros with his low net points.

He didn't have a 6 foot jump shot, no right hand, undersized, and limited post moves (he did have a great reverse though). Great college player, but the fact he didn't get a sniff is pretty straight forward IMO.