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This year I’m including net points information with my post game updates but doing monthly posts breaking the information out so we can chart the trends.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
Note: “After January” is after the 1/26/13 Villanova game
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
After December:
20.5m 13.5p 10.7r 0.4a 0.8s 4.5b = 29.9+ 4.3mfg 1.3mft 1.5to 3.6pf = 10.7- =
19.2NP 7.9OE 11.3FG
After January:
22.1m 11.9p 10.0r 0.5a 1.0s 3.6b = 27.0+ 3.9mfg 2.6mft 1.4to 3.9pf = 11.8- =
15.2NP 5.4OE 9.8FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
After December
14.8m 13.1p 13.1r 0.2a 1.7s 3.3b = 31.4+ 1.9mfg 2.3mft 2.1to 5.8pf = 12.1- =
19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After January
14.4m 10.1p 10.8r 0.4a 1.8s 3.2b = 26.3+ 1.9mfg 1.9mft 1.7to 6.5pf = 26.3- =
14.3NP 6.3OE 7.9FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
After December:
16.6m 15.6p 14.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.5b = 33.7+ 7.4mfg 5.0mft 3.8to 3.4pf = 19.6- =
14.1NP 3.2OE 12.8FG
After January:
14.0m 14.3p 12.5r 0.4a 1.6s 1.3b = 30.1+ 6.9mfg 4.6mft 3.2to 3.7pf = 18.4- =
11.7NP 2.8OE 8.9FG
The performance of all three centers has declined. Christmas is scoring less. Keita is both scoring and rebounding less and fouling more. Coleman is scoring and rebounding less. Obviously playing a higher level of completion is a lot of that but the failure of these players to improve is the big issue. Our best big man at this point is probably Jerami Grant, who is coming on like gang-busters. He’s not a center but he is a power forward and his development may limit the time of the three centers at that position.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
After December:
29.2m 17.5p 9.2r 0.8a 1.8s 1.0b = 30.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 2.0pf = 11.8- =
18.5NP 9.8OE 8.7FG
After January:
32.5m 16.5p 8.8r 0.7a 1.2s 1.3b = 28.5+ 6.7mfg 0.9mft 1.7to 2.0pf = 11.3- =
17.2NP 8.9OE 8.3FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
After December:
25.1m 21.4p 7.7r 1.8a 2.0s 1.8b = 34.7+ 7.6mfg 0.7mft 1.8to 3.0pf = 13.1- =
21.6NP 13.1OE 8.5FG
After January:
26.3m 20.8p 7.9r 1.9a 2.0s 1.5b = 34.1+ 8.2mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 3.0pf = 13.4- =
20.7NP 12.0OE 8.7FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
After December:
12.1m 14.0p 8.0r 1.4a 1.4s 1.4b = 26.2+ 4.7mfg 4.3mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 14.5- =
11.7NP 5.0OE 6.7FG
After January:
14.9m 13.6p 7.7r 1.2a 1.2s 1.3b = 25.0+ 4.8mfg 2.7mft 1.7to 3.6pf = 12.8- =
12.2NP 6.1OE 6.1FG
CJ Fair’s and James Southerland’s performances, (before James’ suspension), also declined but only slightly and the increased quality of opposition was surely the reason. It’s interesting that Jerami Grant’s over-all performance hasn’t actually improved as much as you might think. He’s just getting a great chance to show what he can do with more playing time. His offensive efficiency has improved considerably but his other numbers have actually declined a bit. The big changes are that he’s doing better at the free throw line but committing more fouls.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
After December:
30.4m 19.2p 4.4r 4.7a 2.3s 0.3b = 30.9+ 8.1mfg 1.6mft 3.5to 2.5pf = 15.7- =
15.2NP 9.5OE 5.7FG
After January:
32.3m 18.5p 4.3r 4.3a 1.8s 0.2b = 29.1+ 7.9mfg 1.4mft 3.0to 2.3pf = 14.6- =
14.5NP 9.2OE 5.3FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
After December:
32.2m 15.2p 5.8r 12.6a 3.7s 0.9b = 38.2+ 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.8to 2.7pf = 16.5- =
21.7NP 6.2OE 15.5FG
After January:
34.2m 14.7p 5.7r 10.4a 3.5s 0.8b = 35.1+ 8.1mfg 1.7mft 4.5to 2.7pf = 16.9- =
18.2NP 4.9OE 13.3FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
After December:
15.0m 14.9p 2.5r 2.7a 3.2s 0.4b = 23.7+ 9.7mfg 0.4mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 14.1- =
9.6NP 4.8OE 4.8FG
After January:
13.3m 14.1p 2.6r 2.3a 3.5s 0.3b = 22.8+ 9.5mfg 0.3mft 1.4to 2.7pf = 13.9- =
8.9NP 4.3OE 4.6FG
Triche’s numbers have declined slightly. He’s scoring slightly less and has somewhat fewer assists. But he’s basically the same player. MCW is missing more shots but the biggest reason for his decline is that he’s getting fewer assists. The absence of Southerland is a factor but the biggest thing is that the opposition has seen the films and figured out that the way to play him is to cut off the passing lanes and make him try to score himself. Trevor Cooney continues to struggle.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
Note: “After January” is after the 1/26/13 Villanova game
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
After December:
20.5m 13.5p 10.7r 0.4a 0.8s 4.5b = 29.9+ 4.3mfg 1.3mft 1.5to 3.6pf = 10.7- =
19.2NP 7.9OE 11.3FG
After January:
22.1m 11.9p 10.0r 0.5a 1.0s 3.6b = 27.0+ 3.9mfg 2.6mft 1.4to 3.9pf = 11.8- =
15.2NP 5.4OE 9.8FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
After December
14.8m 13.1p 13.1r 0.2a 1.7s 3.3b = 31.4+ 1.9mfg 2.3mft 2.1to 5.8pf = 12.1- =
19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After January
14.4m 10.1p 10.8r 0.4a 1.8s 3.2b = 26.3+ 1.9mfg 1.9mft 1.7to 6.5pf = 26.3- =
14.3NP 6.3OE 7.9FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
After December:
16.6m 15.6p 14.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.5b = 33.7+ 7.4mfg 5.0mft 3.8to 3.4pf = 19.6- =
14.1NP 3.2OE 12.8FG
After January:
14.0m 14.3p 12.5r 0.4a 1.6s 1.3b = 30.1+ 6.9mfg 4.6mft 3.2to 3.7pf = 18.4- =
11.7NP 2.8OE 8.9FG
The performance of all three centers has declined. Christmas is scoring less. Keita is both scoring and rebounding less and fouling more. Coleman is scoring and rebounding less. Obviously playing a higher level of completion is a lot of that but the failure of these players to improve is the big issue. Our best big man at this point is probably Jerami Grant, who is coming on like gang-busters. He’s not a center but he is a power forward and his development may limit the time of the three centers at that position.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
After December:
29.2m 17.5p 9.2r 0.8a 1.8s 1.0b = 30.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 2.0pf = 11.8- =
18.5NP 9.8OE 8.7FG
After January:
32.5m 16.5p 8.8r 0.7a 1.2s 1.3b = 28.5+ 6.7mfg 0.9mft 1.7to 2.0pf = 11.3- =
17.2NP 8.9OE 8.3FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
After December:
25.1m 21.4p 7.7r 1.8a 2.0s 1.8b = 34.7+ 7.6mfg 0.7mft 1.8to 3.0pf = 13.1- =
21.6NP 13.1OE 8.5FG
After January:
26.3m 20.8p 7.9r 1.9a 2.0s 1.5b = 34.1+ 8.2mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 3.0pf = 13.4- =
20.7NP 12.0OE 8.7FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
After December:
12.1m 14.0p 8.0r 1.4a 1.4s 1.4b = 26.2+ 4.7mfg 4.3mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 14.5- =
11.7NP 5.0OE 6.7FG
After January:
14.9m 13.6p 7.7r 1.2a 1.2s 1.3b = 25.0+ 4.8mfg 2.7mft 1.7to 3.6pf = 12.8- =
12.2NP 6.1OE 6.1FG
CJ Fair’s and James Southerland’s performances, (before James’ suspension), also declined but only slightly and the increased quality of opposition was surely the reason. It’s interesting that Jerami Grant’s over-all performance hasn’t actually improved as much as you might think. He’s just getting a great chance to show what he can do with more playing time. His offensive efficiency has improved considerably but his other numbers have actually declined a bit. The big changes are that he’s doing better at the free throw line but committing more fouls.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
After December:
30.4m 19.2p 4.4r 4.7a 2.3s 0.3b = 30.9+ 8.1mfg 1.6mft 3.5to 2.5pf = 15.7- =
15.2NP 9.5OE 5.7FG
After January:
32.3m 18.5p 4.3r 4.3a 1.8s 0.2b = 29.1+ 7.9mfg 1.4mft 3.0to 2.3pf = 14.6- =
14.5NP 9.2OE 5.3FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
After December:
32.2m 15.2p 5.8r 12.6a 3.7s 0.9b = 38.2+ 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.8to 2.7pf = 16.5- =
21.7NP 6.2OE 15.5FG
After January:
34.2m 14.7p 5.7r 10.4a 3.5s 0.8b = 35.1+ 8.1mfg 1.7mft 4.5to 2.7pf = 16.9- =
18.2NP 4.9OE 13.3FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
After December:
15.0m 14.9p 2.5r 2.7a 3.2s 0.4b = 23.7+ 9.7mfg 0.4mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 14.1- =
9.6NP 4.8OE 4.8FG
After January:
13.3m 14.1p 2.6r 2.3a 3.5s 0.3b = 22.8+ 9.5mfg 0.3mft 1.4to 2.7pf = 13.9- =
8.9NP 4.3OE 4.6FG
Triche’s numbers have declined slightly. He’s scoring slightly less and has somewhat fewer assists. But he’s basically the same player. MCW is missing more shots but the biggest reason for his decline is that he’s getting fewer assists. The absence of Southerland is a factor but the biggest thing is that the opposition has seen the films and figured out that the way to play him is to cut off the passing lanes and make him try to score himself. Trevor Cooney continues to struggle.