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This year I’m including net points information with my post game updates but doing monthly posts breaking the information out so we can chart the trends.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
Note: “After February” is after the 2/25/13 Marquette game
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
After December:
20.5m 13.5p 10.7r 0.4a 0.8s 4.5b = 29.9+ 4.3mfg 1.3mft 1.5to 3.6pf = 10.7- =
19.2NP 7.9OE 11.3FG
After January:
22.1m 11.9p 10.0r 0.5a 1.0s 3.6b = 27.0+ 3.9mfg 2.6mft 1.4to 3.9pf = 11.8- =
15.2NP 5.4OE 9.8FG
After February:
22.2m 10.3p 9.1r 0.5a 0.9s 3.6b = 24.4+ 3.6mfg 0.8mft 1.6to 4.3pf = 10.3- =
14.1NP 5.9OE 8.2FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
After December
14.8m 13.1p 13.1r 0.2a 1.7s 3.3b = 31.4+ 1.9mfg 2.3mft 2.1to 5.8pf = 12.1- =
19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After January
14.4m 10.1p 10.8r 0.4a 1.8s 3.2b = 26.3+ 1.9mfg 1.9mft 1.7to 6.5pf = 12.0- =
14.3NP 6.3OE 7.9FG
After February
15.2m 8.7p 9.9r 0.4a 1.7s 2.9b = 23.6+ 2.2mfg 1.5mft 1.5to 6.4pf = 11.6- =
12.0NP 5.0OE 7.0FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
After December:
16.6m 15.6p 14.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.5b = 33.7+ 7.4mfg 5.0mft 3.8to 3.4pf = 19.6- =
14.1NP 3.2OE 12.8FG
After January:
14.0m 14.3p 12.5r 0.4a 1.6s 1.3b = 30.1+ 6.9mfg 4.6mft 3.2to 3.7pf = 18.4- =
11.7NP 2.8OE 8.9FG
After February:
(same)
Rakeem Christmas’ numbers have gone down but it’s interesting that his offensive efficiency, (points minus missed field goals and free throws), has gone up. He’s scoring less but it’s not because he’s missing shots. He’s not getting the ball. His rebounding has declined and he’s committing more fouls. Keita, on the other hand, is missing more shots by a small margin. He’s also declined in rebounding and commits too many fouls to be able to play any longer than he does. Coleman is still on the shelf for now.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
After December:
29.2m 17.5p 9.2r 0.8a 1.8s 1.0b = 30.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 2.0pf = 11.8- =
18.5NP 9.8OE 8.7FG
After January:
32.5m 16.5p 8.8r 0.7a 1.2s 1.3b = 28.5+ 6.7mfg 0.9mft 1.7to 2.0pf = 11.3- =
17.2NP 8.9OE 8.3FG
After February:
34.0m 17.0p 8.6r 0.9a 1.2s 1.1b = 28.8+ 6.4mfg 0.8mft 1.8to 1.8pf = 10.8- =
18.0NP 9.8OE 8.2FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
After December:
25.1m 21.4p 7.7r 1.8a 2.0s 1.8b = 34.7+ 7.6mfg 0.7mft 1.8to 3.0pf = 13.1- =
21.6NP 13.1OE 8.5FG
After January:
26.3m 20.8p 7.9r 1.9a 2.0s 1.5b = 34.1+ 8.2mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 3.0pf = 13.4- =
20.7NP 12.0OE 8.7FG
After February:
27.1m 20.4p 7.3r 1.8a 2.0s 1.3b = 32.8+ 8.4mfg 0.6mft 1.5to 3.1pf = 13.7- =
19.1NP 11.4OE 7.7FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
After December:
12.1m 14.0p 8.0r 1.4a 1.4s 1.4b = 26.2+ 4.7mfg 4.3mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 14.5- =
11.7NP 5.0OE 6.7FG
After January:
14.9m 13.6p 7.7r 1.2a 1.2s 1.3b = 25.0+ 4.8mfg 2.7mft 1.7to 3.6pf = 12.8- =
12.2NP 6.1OE 6.1FG
After February:
16.4m 11.9p 7.5r 1.2a 1.2s 1.1b = 22.9+ 4.7mfg 2.4mft 1.8to 3.8pf = 12.7- =
10.2NP 4.8OE 5.4FG
CJ Fair is on a nice role but he’s been on it since December. It hasn’t declined with the increased level of completion. Once he stopped trying to be “the star” and let the game come to him, he’s been a highly productive player. James Southerland’s performance ahs declined slightly, mostly in the area of rebounding. Jerami Grant got more playing time while Southerland was out and, while he showed what he could do, his production per 40 minutes actually went down. He’d been doing those things all along, when he got the chance.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
After December:
30.4m 19.2p 4.4r 4.7a 2.3s 0.3b = 30.9+ 8.1mfg 1.6mft 3.5to 2.5pf = 15.7- =
15.2NP 9.5OE 5.7FG
After January:
32.3m 18.5p 4.3r 4.3a 1.8s 0.2b = 29.1+ 7.9mfg 1.4mft 3.0to 2.3pf = 14.6- =
14.5NP 9.2OE 5.3FG
After February:
33.2m 17.4p 4.2r 4.4a 1.6s 0.1b = 27.7+ 8.2mfg 1.2mft 3.1to 2.5pf = 15.0- =
12.7NP 8.0OE 4.7FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
After December:
32.2m 15.2p 5.8r 12.6a 3.7s 0.9b = 38.2+ 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.8to 2.7pf = 16.5- =
21.7NP 6.2OE 15.5FG
After January:
34.2m 14.7p 5.7r 10.4a 3.5s 0.8b = 35.1+ 8.1mfg 1.7mft 4.5to 2.7pf = 16.9- =
18.2NP 4.9OE 13.3FG
After February:
34.4m 14.6p 5.5r 9.2a 3.4s 0.7b = 33.4+ 7.6mfg 1.4mft 4.0to 2.7pf = 15.7- =
17.7NP 5.6OE 12.1FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
After December:
15.0m 14.9p 2.5r 2.7a 3.2s 0.4b = 23.7+ 9.7mfg 0.4mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 14.1- =
9.6NP 4.8OE 4.8FG
After January:
13.3m 14.1p 2.6r 2.3a 3.5s 0.3b = 22.8+ 9.5mfg 0.3mft 1.4to 2.7pf = 13.9- =
8.9NP 4.3OE 4.6FG
After February:
12.0m 12.9p 2.4r 2.4a 2.8s 0.4b = 20.9+ 9.5mfg 0.2mft 1.4to 3.0pf = 14.1- =
6.9NP 3.2OE 3.7FG
When we say Brandon Triche is playing poorly, we are basically talking about his shooting. His other stats have held up OK. Michael Carter-Williams decline is in one stat: assists. I think a lot of his problems come from the lack of productivity of his teammates, which limits his options and forces him to try to do too much. Trevor Cooney’s numbers just keep getting smaller and smaller. It’s not just that he’s not playing. It’s that he doesn’t do much when he’s in there.
You want to know what’s wrong with this team? Instead of Fab Melo and Dion Waiters, we have Rakeem Christmas and Trevor Cooney. That’s quite a difference.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
Note: “After February” is after the 2/25/13 Marquette game
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
After December:
20.5m 13.5p 10.7r 0.4a 0.8s 4.5b = 29.9+ 4.3mfg 1.3mft 1.5to 3.6pf = 10.7- =
19.2NP 7.9OE 11.3FG
After January:
22.1m 11.9p 10.0r 0.5a 1.0s 3.6b = 27.0+ 3.9mfg 2.6mft 1.4to 3.9pf = 11.8- =
15.2NP 5.4OE 9.8FG
After February:
22.2m 10.3p 9.1r 0.5a 0.9s 3.6b = 24.4+ 3.6mfg 0.8mft 1.6to 4.3pf = 10.3- =
14.1NP 5.9OE 8.2FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
After December
14.8m 13.1p 13.1r 0.2a 1.7s 3.3b = 31.4+ 1.9mfg 2.3mft 2.1to 5.8pf = 12.1- =
19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
After January
14.4m 10.1p 10.8r 0.4a 1.8s 3.2b = 26.3+ 1.9mfg 1.9mft 1.7to 6.5pf = 12.0- =
14.3NP 6.3OE 7.9FG
After February
15.2m 8.7p 9.9r 0.4a 1.7s 2.9b = 23.6+ 2.2mfg 1.5mft 1.5to 6.4pf = 11.6- =
12.0NP 5.0OE 7.0FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
After December:
16.6m 15.6p 14.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.5b = 33.7+ 7.4mfg 5.0mft 3.8to 3.4pf = 19.6- =
14.1NP 3.2OE 12.8FG
After January:
14.0m 14.3p 12.5r 0.4a 1.6s 1.3b = 30.1+ 6.9mfg 4.6mft 3.2to 3.7pf = 18.4- =
11.7NP 2.8OE 8.9FG
After February:
(same)
Rakeem Christmas’ numbers have gone down but it’s interesting that his offensive efficiency, (points minus missed field goals and free throws), has gone up. He’s scoring less but it’s not because he’s missing shots. He’s not getting the ball. His rebounding has declined and he’s committing more fouls. Keita, on the other hand, is missing more shots by a small margin. He’s also declined in rebounding and commits too many fouls to be able to play any longer than he does. Coleman is still on the shelf for now.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
After December:
29.2m 17.5p 9.2r 0.8a 1.8s 1.0b = 30.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 2.0pf = 11.8- =
18.5NP 9.8OE 8.7FG
After January:
32.5m 16.5p 8.8r 0.7a 1.2s 1.3b = 28.5+ 6.7mfg 0.9mft 1.7to 2.0pf = 11.3- =
17.2NP 8.9OE 8.3FG
After February:
34.0m 17.0p 8.6r 0.9a 1.2s 1.1b = 28.8+ 6.4mfg 0.8mft 1.8to 1.8pf = 10.8- =
18.0NP 9.8OE 8.2FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
After December:
25.1m 21.4p 7.7r 1.8a 2.0s 1.8b = 34.7+ 7.6mfg 0.7mft 1.8to 3.0pf = 13.1- =
21.6NP 13.1OE 8.5FG
After January:
26.3m 20.8p 7.9r 1.9a 2.0s 1.5b = 34.1+ 8.2mfg 0.6mft 1.6to 3.0pf = 13.4- =
20.7NP 12.0OE 8.7FG
After February:
27.1m 20.4p 7.3r 1.8a 2.0s 1.3b = 32.8+ 8.4mfg 0.6mft 1.5to 3.1pf = 13.7- =
19.1NP 11.4OE 7.7FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
After December:
12.1m 14.0p 8.0r 1.4a 1.4s 1.4b = 26.2+ 4.7mfg 4.3mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 14.5- =
11.7NP 5.0OE 6.7FG
After January:
14.9m 13.6p 7.7r 1.2a 1.2s 1.3b = 25.0+ 4.8mfg 2.7mft 1.7to 3.6pf = 12.8- =
12.2NP 6.1OE 6.1FG
After February:
16.4m 11.9p 7.5r 1.2a 1.2s 1.1b = 22.9+ 4.7mfg 2.4mft 1.8to 3.8pf = 12.7- =
10.2NP 4.8OE 5.4FG
CJ Fair is on a nice role but he’s been on it since December. It hasn’t declined with the increased level of completion. Once he stopped trying to be “the star” and let the game come to him, he’s been a highly productive player. James Southerland’s performance ahs declined slightly, mostly in the area of rebounding. Jerami Grant got more playing time while Southerland was out and, while he showed what he could do, his production per 40 minutes actually went down. He’d been doing those things all along, when he got the chance.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
After December:
30.4m 19.2p 4.4r 4.7a 2.3s 0.3b = 30.9+ 8.1mfg 1.6mft 3.5to 2.5pf = 15.7- =
15.2NP 9.5OE 5.7FG
After January:
32.3m 18.5p 4.3r 4.3a 1.8s 0.2b = 29.1+ 7.9mfg 1.4mft 3.0to 2.3pf = 14.6- =
14.5NP 9.2OE 5.3FG
After February:
33.2m 17.4p 4.2r 4.4a 1.6s 0.1b = 27.7+ 8.2mfg 1.2mft 3.1to 2.5pf = 15.0- =
12.7NP 8.0OE 4.7FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
After December:
32.2m 15.2p 5.8r 12.6a 3.7s 0.9b = 38.2+ 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.8to 2.7pf = 16.5- =
21.7NP 6.2OE 15.5FG
After January:
34.2m 14.7p 5.7r 10.4a 3.5s 0.8b = 35.1+ 8.1mfg 1.7mft 4.5to 2.7pf = 16.9- =
18.2NP 4.9OE 13.3FG
After February:
34.4m 14.6p 5.5r 9.2a 3.4s 0.7b = 33.4+ 7.6mfg 1.4mft 4.0to 2.7pf = 15.7- =
17.7NP 5.6OE 12.1FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
After December:
15.0m 14.9p 2.5r 2.7a 3.2s 0.4b = 23.7+ 9.7mfg 0.4mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 14.1- =
9.6NP 4.8OE 4.8FG
After January:
13.3m 14.1p 2.6r 2.3a 3.5s 0.3b = 22.8+ 9.5mfg 0.3mft 1.4to 2.7pf = 13.9- =
8.9NP 4.3OE 4.6FG
After February:
12.0m 12.9p 2.4r 2.4a 2.8s 0.4b = 20.9+ 9.5mfg 0.2mft 1.4to 3.0pf = 14.1- =
6.9NP 3.2OE 3.7FG
When we say Brandon Triche is playing poorly, we are basically talking about his shooting. His other stats have held up OK. Michael Carter-Williams decline is in one stat: assists. I think a lot of his problems come from the lack of productivity of his teammates, which limits his options and forces him to try to do too much. Trevor Cooney’s numbers just keep getting smaller and smaller. It’s not just that he’s not playing. It’s that he doesn’t do much when he’s in there.
You want to know what’s wrong with this team? Instead of Fab Melo and Dion Waiters, we have Rakeem Christmas and Trevor Cooney. That’s quite a difference.