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This year I’m including net points information with my post game updates but doing monthly posts breaking the information out so we can chart the trends.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
(Note: “After December” is after the ½/03 Rutgers game because I didn’t get around to updating this before that game.)
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
After December:
20.5m 13.5p 10.7r 0.4a 0.8s 4.5b = 29.9+ 4.3mfg 1.3mft 1.5to 3.6pf = 10.7- =
19.2NP 7.9OE 11.3FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
After December
14.8m 13.1p 13.1r 0.2a 1.7s 3.3b = 31.4+ 1.9mfg 2.3mft 2.1to 5.8pf = 12.1- =
19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
After December:
16.6m 15.6p 14.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.5b = 33.7+ 7.4mfg 5.0mft 3.8to 3.4pf = 19.6- =
14.1NP 3.2OE 12.8FG
All three centers are good rebounders but we haven‘t been able to afford having two of them on the court at the same time because of their offensive, (and Coleman’s defensive) limitations. It’s interesting that Keita, who has the most experience, is getting called for the most fouls while Coleman, with the least experience, is being called for the fewest. That’s probably because blocking shots is a big part of Keita’s game but a small part of Coleman’s.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
After December:
29.2m 17.5p 9.2r 0.8a 1.8s 1.0b = 30.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 2.0pf = 11.8- =
18.5NP 9.8OE 8.7FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
After December:
25.1m 21.4p 7.7r 1.8a 2.0s 1.8b = 34.7+ 7.6mfg 0.7mft 1.8to 3.0pf = 13.1- =
21.6NP 13.1OE 8.5FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
After December:
12.1m 14.0p 8.0r 1.4a 1.4s 1.4b = 26.2+ 4.7mfg 4.3mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 14.5- =
11.7NP 5.0OE 6.7FG
CJ Fair’s performance has improved noticeably, largely because he’s playing his game- stay in the flow of things, find the ball and the openings in the defense. He’s not trying to be the star of the team by dominating the ball or jacking up too many outside shots. James Southerland’s numbers have settled. He’s still a very productive player but needs more consistency. Jerami Grant is looking better and better. But with more playing time, his negatives have gone up as well as his positives.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
After December:
30.4m 19.2p 4.4r 4.7a 2.3s 0.3b = 30.9+ 8.1mfg 1.6mft 3.5to 2.5pf = 15.7- =
15.2NP 9.5OE 5.7FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
After December:
32.2m 15.2p 5.8r 12.6a 3.7s 0.9b = 38.2+ 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.8to 2.7pf = 16.5- =
21.7NP 6.2OE 15.5FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
After December:
15.0m 14.9p 2.5r 2.7a 3.2s 0.4b = 23.7+ 9.7mfg 0.4mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 14.1- =
9.6NP 4.8OE 4.8FG
Triche’s numbers have improved slightly, the biggest difference being more assists. MCW is scoring more and getting even more assists. But his rebounds and steals have declined. Trevor Cooney’s shooting has improved but he’s actually getting fewer assists and his unreal number of steals has clamed down to a more likely number.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
(Note: “After December” is after the ½/03 Rutgers game because I didn’t get around to updating this before that game.)
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
After December:
20.5m 13.5p 10.7r 0.4a 0.8s 4.5b = 29.9+ 4.3mfg 1.3mft 1.5to 3.6pf = 10.7- =
19.2NP 7.9OE 11.3FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
After December
14.8m 13.1p 13.1r 0.2a 1.7s 3.3b = 31.4+ 1.9mfg 2.3mft 2.1to 5.8pf = 12.1- =
19.3NP 8.9OE 10.4FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
After December:
16.6m 15.6p 14.4r 0.5a 1.7s 1.5b = 33.7+ 7.4mfg 5.0mft 3.8to 3.4pf = 19.6- =
14.1NP 3.2OE 12.8FG
All three centers are good rebounders but we haven‘t been able to afford having two of them on the court at the same time because of their offensive, (and Coleman’s defensive) limitations. It’s interesting that Keita, who has the most experience, is getting called for the most fouls while Coleman, with the least experience, is being called for the fewest. That’s probably because blocking shots is a big part of Keita’s game but a small part of Coleman’s.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
After December:
29.2m 17.5p 9.2r 0.8a 1.8s 1.0b = 30.3+ 6.7mfg 1.0mft 2.1to 2.0pf = 11.8- =
18.5NP 9.8OE 8.7FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
After December:
25.1m 21.4p 7.7r 1.8a 2.0s 1.8b = 34.7+ 7.6mfg 0.7mft 1.8to 3.0pf = 13.1- =
21.6NP 13.1OE 8.5FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
After December:
12.1m 14.0p 8.0r 1.4a 1.4s 1.4b = 26.2+ 4.7mfg 4.3mft 2.4to 3.1pf = 14.5- =
11.7NP 5.0OE 6.7FG
CJ Fair’s performance has improved noticeably, largely because he’s playing his game- stay in the flow of things, find the ball and the openings in the defense. He’s not trying to be the star of the team by dominating the ball or jacking up too many outside shots. James Southerland’s numbers have settled. He’s still a very productive player but needs more consistency. Jerami Grant is looking better and better. But with more playing time, his negatives have gone up as well as his positives.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
After December:
30.4m 19.2p 4.4r 4.7a 2.3s 0.3b = 30.9+ 8.1mfg 1.6mft 3.5to 2.5pf = 15.7- =
15.2NP 9.5OE 5.7FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
After December:
32.2m 15.2p 5.8r 12.6a 3.7s 0.9b = 38.2+ 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.8to 2.7pf = 16.5- =
21.7NP 6.2OE 15.5FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
After December:
15.0m 14.9p 2.5r 2.7a 3.2s 0.4b = 23.7+ 9.7mfg 0.4mft 1.1to 2.9pf = 14.1- =
9.6NP 4.8OE 4.8FG
Triche’s numbers have improved slightly, the biggest difference being more assists. MCW is scoring more and getting even more assists. But his rebounds and steals have declined. Trevor Cooney’s shooting has improved but he’s actually getting fewer assists and his unreal number of steals has clamed down to a more likely number.