SWC75
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This year I’m including net points information with my post game updates but doing monthly posts breaking the information out so we can chart the trends.
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
All three centers have been productive at times but none consistently so. It’s interesting that Keita, who has the most experience, is getting called for the most fouls while Coleman, with the least experience, is being called for the fewest. That’s probably because blocking shots is a big part of Keita’s game but a small part of Coleman’s.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
CJ isn’t shooting well, ((40.8% this year, 5.5mfg last year) and isn’t rebounding as well as last year, (8.2). Southerland is playing at an All-America level. His scoring average of 29.1 is higher than any of the players listed below by a good margin. But it’s early. Let’s see how it holds up through the year. Doing it on the road and vs. Arkansas as opposed to in the Dome against an overmatched team is impressive. Jerami Grant hasn’t played much and hasn’t showed much but it is interesting that a freshman would play 44 minutes so far this year with no turnovers.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
Triche has been solid, abit with few too many turnovers (2.4 last year). Carter Williams’ floor game is off the charts, (17.7- more than any player listed below and no guard is even in double figures). Again, it’s early but MCW is still maturing. He’s far from the player he’s going to be. So is Trevor Cooney, obviously. His poor shooting has become a mental thing. But he’s not letting it prevent him from contributing in other ways. When the shots start falling, watch out!
Again the formula is to add the “positives”, (points rebounds, assists, blocks and steals) and subtract the “negatives”, (missed field goals, missed free throws, turnovers and fouls) on the theory that all these numbers are, on average worth between 0.5 and 1.5 points and you can summarize a player’s statistical contributions to his team by adding the positives and subtracting the negatives. Of course, there are things not covered by the stats, (getting loose balls- which should be a stat- sneaker to sneaker defense, keeping the ball moving, providing an outlet man for a player surrounded by defenders, the timeliness of things, being a an example and leader off the court, etc), But the most statistically productive players will normally be the best at these other things as well.
In my post game summaries, I’m totaling the net points and multiplying by 40, then dividing by the number of minutes played on the season. I’m adding my numbers up as I go along. In these monthly posts, I’ll multiply each stat by 40/minutes played and then adding and subtracting the result so the numbers might be slightly different due to rounding. I’m also adding two other stats: “Offensive Efficiency“ (OE), which is points minus missed field goals and free throws, and “Floor Game“ (FG), which is rebounds, assists, blocks and steals minus turnovers and fouls. When I do the monthly post, I’ll also review the numbers on the latest game summary vs. the overall numbers on the SU Athletics website to correct any mistakes. Finally I’ve decided to list the best seasons of our most famous players since the 1983-84, (the earliest year for which all the numerical components of the net points formula are available), for comparison purposes. Of course, as we go along, the numbers of the current SU players will become more meaningful as we have a greater sample vs. better opposition.
M= minutes per game the team has played, (If players get injured or suspended, I will use the number of games for which they were available)
P= points per 40 minutes.
R= rebounds per 40 minutes
A= assists per 40 minutes
B= blocks per 40 minutes
S= steals per 40 minutes
+= total of P+R+A+B+S
MFG= missed field goals per 40 minutes
MFT= missed free throws per 40 minutes
TO= turnovers per 40 minutes
PF= personal fouls per 40 minutes
- = total of MFG+MFT+TO+PF
NP= + minus -
OE= P minus MFG+MFT
FG= R+A+S+B minus TO+PF
CENTERS
Rakeem Christmas
After November:
20.4m 12.2p 10.2r 0.4a 0.4s 4.7b = 27.9+ 3.5mfg 0.4mft 2.4to 3.9pf = 10.2- =
17.7NP 8.3OE 9.4FG
Baye Moussa Keita
After November:
17.8m 11.2p 11.2r 0.0a 0.9s 2.2b = 25.5+ 1.3mfg 2.2mft 1.8to 6.3pf = 11.6- =
13.9NP 7.7OE 4.0FG
DaJuan Coleman
After November:
14.8m 15.7p 14.6r 0.5a 2.2s 1.1b = 34.1+ 7.0mfg 4.9mft 4.3to 3.8pf = 20.0- =
14.1NP 3.8OE 10.3FG
All three centers have been productive at times but none consistently so. It’s interesting that Keita, who has the most experience, is getting called for the most fouls while Coleman, with the least experience, is being called for the fewest. That’s probably because blocking shots is a big part of Keita’s game but a small part of Coleman’s.
FORWARDS
C.J. Fair
After November:
30.2m 14.8p 7.4r 1.1a 1.6s 0.8b = 25.7+ 6.9mfg 1.6mft 2.9to 2.4pf = 13.8- =
11.9NP 6.3OE 5.6FG
James Southerland
After November:
26.4m 29.1p 6.7r 0.9a 2.1s 2.4b = 41.2+ 6.4mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 3.6pf = 13.0- =
28.2NP 21.8OE 6.4FG
Jerami Grant
After November:
8.8m 9.1p 5.5r 1.8a 1.8s 0.9b = 19.1+ 4.5mfg 1.8mft 0.0to 1.8pf = 8.1- =
11.0NP 2.8OE 8.2FG
CJ isn’t shooting well, ((40.8% this year, 5.5mfg last year) and isn’t rebounding as well as last year, (8.2). Southerland is playing at an All-America level. His scoring average of 29.1 is higher than any of the players listed below by a good margin. But it’s early. Let’s see how it holds up through the year. Doing it on the road and vs. Arkansas as opposed to in the Dome against an overmatched team is impressive. Jerami Grant hasn’t played much and hasn’t showed much but it is interesting that a freshman would play 44 minutes so far this year with no turnovers.
GUARDS
Brandon Triche
After November:
32.0m 19.5p 4.3r 3.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 30.4+ 8.5mfg 1.3mft 4.0to 2.5pf = 16.3- =
14.1NP 9.7OE 4.4FG
Michael Carter-Williams
After November:
31.6m 14.7p 8.1r 11.6a 4.8s 0.8b = 40.0+ 7.3mfg 1.0mft 4.3to 3.3pf = 15.9- =
24.1NP 6.4OE 17.7FG
Trevor Cooney
After November:
13.2m 9.1p 1.8r 3.6a 6.1s 1.2b = 21.8+ 10.3mfg 1.2mft 0.6to 3.0pf = 15.1- =
6.7NP -2.4OE 9.1FG
Triche has been solid, abit with few too many turnovers (2.4 last year). Carter Williams’ floor game is off the charts, (17.7- more than any player listed below and no guard is even in double figures). Again, it’s early but MCW is still maturing. He’s far from the player he’s going to be. So is Trevor Cooney, obviously. His poor shooting has become a mental thing. But he’s not letting it prevent him from contributing in other ways. When the shots start falling, watch out!
