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This is my statistical summary of the 2017-18 SU basketball team in their post season games (the 2 ACC tournament and 4 NCAA tournament games) I will include the same numbers for the pre-conference and conference games for comparison as well as the totals for the season.
Net Points
(points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks minus missed field goals and free throws, turnovers and personal fouls; OE is “Offensive efficiency”: P-MFG-MFT; FG is “Floor Game”: NP – OE. Minutes are by number of games played, not games available to play.)
CENTERS
Paschal Chukwu
Non-conference: 129NP
25.3m 9.2p 9.6r 0.4a 1.6s 5.1b = 25.9+ 1.8mfg 1.9mft 1.9to 4.5pf = 10.1- = 15.8NP 5.5OE 10.3FG
Conference: 176NP
28.7m 6.7p 10.3r 0.7a 0.9s 3.1b = 21.7+ 1.4mfg 0.8mft 1.7to 4.3pf = 8.2- = 13.5NP 4.5OE 9.0FG
Post-Season: 55NP
27.0m 8.9p 10.1r 0.7a 0.2s 2.2b = 22.1+ 1.2mfg 1.5mft 0.5to 5.4pf = 8.6- = 13.5NP 6.2OE 7.3FG
Total: 360NP
27.2m 7.8p 10.0r 0.6a 1.0s 3.6b = 23.0+ 1.5mfg 1.3mft 1.6to 4.6pf = 9.0- = 14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Comments: Paschal has been pretty consistent all season. He blocked more shots in the pre-conference season against shorter teams, did better at the foul line after that and avoided turnovers. He committed too many fouls in the spot season but he seemed to be called for breathing on people.
Bourama Sidibie
Non-conference: 31NP
15.4m 9.9p 9.4r 0.5a 2.3s 2.3b = 24.4+ 2.1mfg 3.4mft 3.4to 7.5pf = 16.4- = 8.0NP 4.4OE 3.6FG
Conference: 35NP
10.4m 8.5p 11.2r 0.5a 0.3s 3.0b = 23.5+ 3.3mfg 1.1mft 2.5to 7.1pf = 14.0- = 9.5NP 4.1OE 5.4FG
Post-Season: 8NP
12.2m 6.6p 10.4r 0.0a 0.0s 1.6b = 18.6+ 0.5mfg 2.2mft 2.7to 8.8pf = 14.2- = 4.4NP 3.9OE 0.5FG
Total: 74NP
12.4m 8.7p 10.3r 0.4a 1.1s 2.1b = 22.6+ 2.3mfg 2.3mft 2.9to 7.6pf = 15.1- = 7.5NP 3.7OE 3.8FG
Comments: Bourama’s positives are similar to Chukwu’s. He misses more field goals and is a worse free throw shooter. He also makes more turnovers. But the big thing is that he commits fouls at a rate that prevents him from playing for long stretches. So does his knee, which may also account for the fouls because it means he can’t get to where he needs to be as well as a healthy player could.
FORWARDS
Oshae Brissett
Non-conference: 194NP
37.0m 19.8p 13.0r 1.5a 1.4s 0.7b = 36.4+ 10.8mfg 2.0mft 1.9to 2.3pf = 17.0 = 19.4NP 7.0OE 12.4FG
Conference: 214NP
38.6m 14.8p 8.1r 0.9a 1.3s 0.8b = 25.9+ 7.8mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 2.7pf = 13.5 = 12.4NP 6.1OE 6.3FG
Post-Season: 82NP
39.2m 16.5p 9.5r 0.7a 1.2s 1.4b = 29.3+ 8.9mfg 2.0mft 2.2to 2.2pf = 15.3- = 14.0NP 5.6OE 8.4FG
Total: 490NP
38.1m 15.7p 9.3r 1.0a 1.2s 0.8b = 28.0+ 8.4mfg 1.3mft 2.4to 2.0pf = 14.1- = 13.9NP 6.0OE 7.9FG
Comments: Oshae put up big numbers against the mostly lesser non-conference teams, then settled somewhat against the conference and in the post season but still had one of the better freshmen years anyone has had here. He was a good and versatile scorer, and a natural rebounder. He committed too many charging fouls but his overall foul total was low for a true freshmen.
Marek Dolezaj
Non-conference: 103NP
23.7m 8.8p 9.7r 3.1a 1.8s 1.6b = 25.0+ 2.6mfg 1.6mft 2.3to 4.5pf = 11.0- = 14.0NP 4.6OE 9.4FG
Conference: 104NP
28.7m 6.5p 5.8r 2.1a 1.0s 0.9b = 16.3+ 2.5mfg 0.5mft 1.6to 3.7pf = 8.3- = 8.0NP 3.5OE 4.5FG
Post-Season: 57NP
34.8m 12.8p 5.4r 1.1a 0.6s 1.0b = 20.9+ 3.1mfg 0.8mft 2.5to 3.6pf = 10.0- = 10.9NP 8.9OE 2.0FG
Total: 264NP
27.9m 8.3p 6.9r 2.2a 1.2s 1.1b = 19.7+ 2.6mfg 0.9mft 2.0to 3.9pf = 9.4- = 10.3NP 4.8OE 5.5FG
Comments: Marek showed his skills and smarts in the pre-conference season. The ACC season seemed to be little too fast and too physical for him. He was timid about taking his shot until late in the year, then started making them became a key player. He could make the 10 footer and finish at the basket, (partially because he wasn’t being defended). I have hopes that he can develop a three point shot. That would make him quite a player as he is an excellent passer and a good rebounder and shot blocker.
Matthew Moyer
Non-conference: 72NP
20.2m 8.4p 9.3r 0.9a 0.9s 0.6b = 20.1+ 3.4mfg 1.4mft 1.5to 2.9pf = 9.2- = 10.9NP 3.6OE 7.3FG
Conference: 64NP
17.9m 7.5p 7.5r 1.3a 0.7s 0.7b = 17.7+ 2.1mfg 1.0mft 1.7to 4.0pf = 8.8- = 8.9NP 4.4OE 4.5FG
Post-Season: 0NP
6.3m 3.2p 5.3r 1.1a 2.1s 2.1b = 13.8+ 3.2mfg 3.2mft 3.2to 4.2pf = 13.8- = 0.0NP -3.2OE +3.2FG
Total: 136NP
16.8m 7.7p 8.2r 1.1a 0.9s 0.7b = 18.6+ 2.7mfg 1.3mft 1.7to 3.5pf = 9.2- = 9.4NP 3.7OE 5.7FG
Comments: Moyer was ranked the #44 recruit in the country coming out of high school. I remember looking at his film and I really didn’t see why. We sure didn’t see why this year. Matt turned out to be just a banger with minimal ability to shoot, handle or pass the ball. He hustled. He had some good games when he could get the ball off the boards. But that was about it and he lost time to the obviously more talented Dolezaj. His per 40 minute averages benefited somewhat from what I call the “reserve’s advantage”. If he played well, he played longer. If he played poorly he got yanked. That means his numbers are skewed toward his better performances whereas a guy playing 30-40 minutes a game will be out there whether he’s playing well or not. If Matt actually played at an 8 point 8 rebound per 40m level every time out he would have played a lot more.
GUARDS
Tyus Battle
Non-conference: 164NP
37.2m 21.6p 3.1r 1.7a 1.8s 0.4b = 28.6+ 9.9mfg 0.8mft 2.1to 2.2pf = 15.0 = 13.6NP 10.9OE 2.7FG
Conference: 204NP
40.1m 19.9p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.1b = 26.6+ 9.7mfg 1.0mft 2.8to 1.9pf = 15.4 = 11.2NP 9.2OE 2.0FG
Post-Season: 46NP
39.7m 15.6p 2.7r 3.0a 0.8s 0.0b = 22.1+ 9.6mfg 0.7mft 2.0to 2.2pf = 14.5- = 7.6NP 5.3OE 2.3FG
Total: 414NP
39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- = 11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Comments: Tyus had the highest per game scoring average, (19.2), for an SU player since Hakim Warrick averaged 21.4 in 2005. And scoring should not be under-estimated: it decides who wins games. His shooting percentages were not good from the field for such a high scorer: 32.2% from three point range, 45.2% inside the arc and 39.9% overall. But he was also facing the brunt of the defense on every possession. Every opposing coach would have stopping Tyus his #1 priority. He always had someone on him and two guys if he tried to move toward the basket. My problem with his game was that he’s a 6-6 guard who averaged 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game and often had less than that. Of course JB may have wanted Howard and Battle to get back to stop the fast break and it’s not like we weren’t a good rebounding team. Tyus started using that defensive attention to set up passes to his teammates in the late going and hopefully we’ll see more of that next year. His low post-season production was due to a shooting slump that finally ended against Duke.
Frank Howard
Non-conference: 153NP
36.8m 16.5p 3.9r 6.7a 2.5s 0.3b = 29.9+ 8.6mfg 1.3mft 4.4to 2.7pf = 17.0- = 12.9NP 6.6OE 6.3FG
Conference: 161NP
39.5m 15.5p 3.2r 4.2a 1.5s 0.3b = 24.7+ 9.1mfg 1.0mft 3.0to 2.5pf = 15.6- = 9.1NP 5.4OE 4.7FG
Post-Season: 34NP
39.2m 10.4p 4.3r 3.4a 2.0s 0.3b = 20.4+ 7.7mfg 0.3mft 3.4to 3.2pf = 14.6- = 5.8NP 2.4OE 3.4FG
Total: 348NP
38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
Comments: Frank was a ‘scoring’ point guard, which is not a bad thing. Going into the season I saw him as more of a passer than a shooter. His assists declined as the season progressed and we went more and more to the dribble drive to score. But his turnovers went down and his scoring remained high until the post season when, he like battle, had a shooting slump. Maybe all those 40 mintue games caught up with our backcourt.
Howard Washington
Non-conference: 6NP
4.6m 4.0p 5.3r 4.0a 0.7s 0.7b = 14.7+ 6.7mfg 0.7mft 2.0to 2.0pf = 11.4- = 3.3NP -3.4OE 6.7FG
conference: 18NP
6.3m 10.4p 5.6r 3.2a 4.0s 0.0b = 23.2+ 1.6mfg 1.6mft 3.2to 2.4pf = 8.8- = 14.4NP 7.2OE 7.2FG
Post-Season: 0NP
(injured)
Total: 24NP
6.1m 6.9p 5.5r 3.6a 2.2s 0.4b = 18.6+ 4.4mfg 1.1mft 2.5to 1.8pf = 9.8- = 8.8NP 1.4OE 7.4FG
Comments: Howard we hardly knew ye. But I think he has potential to play a solid role in the future, although the competition for playing time in the backcourt will continue to be fierce. He was starting to make significant contributions. It’s interesting that he was a strong rebounder even though he’s three inches shorter than Battle.
Geno Thorpe
Non-conference:19NP
14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG
Conference:
(left team)
Post-Season:
(left team)
Total: 19NP
14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG
Comments: Geno could have bee n a significant contributor to the team but walked his own plank.
BLASTS FROM THE PAST
Statistically and physically comparable players from past seasons using the numbers in the SU media Guide, which now goes back to the 1980-81 season.
To Paschal Chukwu as a junior
27.2m 7.8p 10.0r 0.6a 1.0s 3.6b = 23.0+ 1.5mfg 1.3mft 1.6to 4.6pf = 9.0- = 14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Conrad McRae as a junior
29.4m 11.8p 8.4r 1.2a 2.0s 3.3b +26.7 3.6mfg 2.5mft 1.3to 5.3pf -12.7 = 14.0NP 5.7OE 8.3FG
Jeremy McNeil as a sophomore
14.7m 9.2p 10.2r 0.3a 1.3s 4.1b +25.1 1.9mfg 1.5mft 2.1to 7.6pf -13.1 = 12.0NP 5.8OE 6.2FG
Darryl Watkins as a junior
29.8m 9.6p 9.7r 0.9a 1.7s 3.8b 25.7+ 3.5mfg 1.6mft 2.5to 4.2pf 11.8- = 13.9NP 4.5OE 9.4FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a freshman
14.6m 6.0p 10.3r 0.5a 1.6s 3.4b 21.8+ 1.9mfg 1.3mft 1.6to 5.9pf 10.7- = 11.1NP 2.8OE 8.3FG
Rakeem Christmas as a junior
23.6m 9.8p 8.6r 1.1a 0.8s 3.3b +23.6 2.4mfg 0.8mft 1.3to 5.3pf -9.8 = 13.8NP 6.6OE 7.2FG
Watkins is probably the best fit. He scored a bit more and missed more shots but everything else falls into place.
To Bourama Sidibie as a freshman
12.4m 8.7p 10.3r 0.4a 1.1s 2.1b = 22.6+ 2.3mfg 2.3mft 2.9to 7.6pf = 15.1- = 7.5NP 3.7OE 3.8FG
Rodney Walker as a freshman
12.6m 10.5p 9.9r 0.6a 0.9s 0.4b 22.3+ 4.9mfg 1.5mft 1.7to 7.1pf 15.2- = 7.1NP 4.1OE 3.0FG
Herman Harried as a sophomore
7.8m 10.7p 9.9r 2.6a 1.2s 2.8b 27.2+ 4.3mfg 3.1mft 3.9to 8.2pf 19.5- = 7.7NP 3.3OE 4.4FG
Jeremy McNeil as a sophomore
15.9m 6.3p 7.9r 0.3a 0.8s 4.7b +20.0 1.3mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 7.6pf -12.0 = 8.0NP 3.8OE 4.2FG
DaShonte Riley as a freshman
4.5m 5.9p 6.6r 2.8a 0.5s 4.1b 19.9+ 1.5mfg 1.5mft 3.1to 7.1pf 13.2- = 6.7NP 2.9OE 3.8FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a senior
15.5m 4.7p 9.9r 0.8a 1.0s 2.4b = 18.8+ 1.9mfg 0.6mft 1.9to 6.3pf = 10.7- = 8.1NP 2.2OE 5.9FG
The best statistical comparison might be Herman Harried but Herman was a long-armed, (and fingered) 6-7 forward and I think Bourama’s potential greatly exceeds that of the “Helicopter”. Actually I think that’s true of all five guys. Keita’s probably the best comparison except he was a senior and had good knees.
To Oshae Brissett as a freshman
38.1m 15.7p 9.3r 1.0a 1.2s 0.8b = 28.0+ 8.4mfg 1.3mft 2.4to 2.0pf = 14.1- = 13.9NP 6.0OE 7.9FG
Sean Kerins as a senior
28.3m 15.7p 7.9r 1.4a 1.0s 0.5b 26.5+ 6.4mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf 11.5- = 15.0np 8.9oe 6.1fg
Todd Burgan as a junior
33.8m 17.9p 9.0r 3.1a 1.9s 0.3b +32.2 9.1mfg 1.8mft 4.0to 3.4pf -18.3 = 13.9NP 7.0OE 6.9FG
Damone Brown as a sophomore
24.7m 15.4p 8.8r 1.3a 1.4s 1.1b +28.0 6.3mfg 0.7mft 2.1to 4.8pf -13.9 = 14.1NP 8.4OE 5.7FG
Terrence Roberts as a sophomore
18.5m 15.6p 8.5r 1.3a 2.4s 1.8b 29.6+ 4.7mfg 2.4mft 3.0to 6.5pf 16.6- = 13.0NP 8.5OE 4.5FG
Jerami Grant as a sophomore
31.4m 15.4p 8.6r 1.8a 1.0s 0.7b = 27.5+ 5.4mfg 2.3mft 1.5to 3.0pf = 12.2- = 15.3NP 7.7OE 7.6FG
Brown is probably the closest statistical fit but I like the Grant comparison because, like Oshae, he’s all about potential.
To Marek Dolezaj as a freshman
27.9m 8.3p 6.9r 2.2a 1.2s 1.1b = 19.7+ 2.6mfg 0.9mft 2.0to 3.9pf = 9.4- = 10.3 NP 4.8OE 5.5FG
Sean Kerins as a freshman
12.1m 11.9p 7.7r 1.5a 1.1s 0.7b 22.9+ 4.4mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 4.5pf 11.8- = NP: 11.1 OE: 6.8 FG: 4.3
Herman Harried as a junior
8.0m 13.4p 9.1r 1.5a 1.0s 1.7b 26.7+ 2.6mfg 3.9mft 3.9to 5.6pf 16.0- = 10.7NP 6.9OE 3.8FG
Bobby Lazor as a freshman
7.8m 12.1p 9.1r 1.4a 1.4s 1.2b +25.2 4.7mfg 3.0mft 1.9to 5.3pf -14.9 = 10.3NP 4.4OE 5.9FG
Kristoff Ongenaet as a junior
19.2m 9.3p 9.3r 2.1a 1.4s 1.2b 23.3+ 3.0mfg 1.3mft 2.6to 4.9pf 11.8- = 11.5NP 5.0OE 6.5FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a sophomore
11.6m 7.4p 8.1r 0.2a 0.6s 3.2b = 19.5+ 1.2mfg 0.7mft 1.0to 6.1pf = 9.0- = 10.5NP 5.5OE 5.0FG
Ongenaet is the most obvious comparison but the issue of potential comes up again. Marek has much more offensive potential than Kristoff had. Lazor is kind of interesting, especially since he went on to star for our old friends at Arizona State:
Player Bio: Bobby Lazor - Arizona State University Official Athletic Site - Arizona State University
Could Marek develop into a player like that?
To Matthew Moyer as a redshirt freshman
16.8m 7.7p 8.2r 1.1a 0.9s 0.7b = 18.6+ 2.7mfg 1.3mft 1.7to 3.5pf = 9.2- = 9.4NP 3.7OE 5.7FG
Herman Harried as a sophomore
7.8m 10.7p 9.9r 2.6a 1.2s 2.8b 27.2+ 4.3mfg 3.1mft 3.9to 8.2pf 19.5- = 7.7NP 3.3OE 4.4FG
Jeremy McNeil as a freshman
15.9m 6.3p 7.9r 0.3a 0.8s 4.7b +20.0 1.3mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 7.6pf -12.0 = 8.0NP 3.8OE 4.2FG
Kristoff Ongenaet as a junior
19.2m 9.3p 9.3r 2.1a 1.4s 1.2b 23.3+ 3.0mfg 1.3mft 2.6to 4.9pf 11.8- = 11.5NP 5.0OE 6.5FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a sophomore
11.6m 7.4p 8.1r 0.2a 0.6s 3.2b = 19.5+ 1.2mfg 0.7mft 1.0to 6.1pf = 9.0- = 10.5NP 5.5OE 5.0FG
Tyler Roberson as a freshman
8.1m 10.6p 9.4r 1.2a 1.0s 1.0b = 23.2+ 8.1mfg 1.7mft 1.7to 4.2pf = 15.7- = 7.5NP 0.8OE 6.7FG
People think of Roberson when they think of Moyer: if he rebounds, he scores. But Tyler was clearly better over the last three years of his career. Keita is a good statistic match but Moyer isn’t a center. Same thing with McNeil. Ongenaet was similar in some ways but better and Harried would have been better but he committed too many fouls. So maybe Roberson as a freshman is the best comparison.
To Tyus Battle as a sophomore
39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- = 11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Tony Bruin as a sophomore
23.4m 20.2p 5.8r 1.8a 1.0s 0.8b 29.6+ 6.3mfg 2.1mft 4.0to 4.8pf 17.2- = NP: 12.4 OE: 11.8 FG: 0.6
DeShaun Williams as a junior
35.0m 18.2p 4.0r 4.7a 2.4s 0.3b +29.6 10.4mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.8pf -18.9 = 10.7NP 6.6OE 4.1FG
Eric Devendorf as a freshman
27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- = 11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Brandon Triche as a sophomore
28.8m 15.5p 3.7r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b 24.4+ 7.1mfg 0.6mft 2.9to 2.7pf 13.3- = 11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Dion Waiters as a freshman
16.3m 16.1p 3.8r 3.6a 2.7s 0.3b 26.5+ 8.1mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 3.3pf 14.2- = 12.3NP 7.4OE 4.9FG
Devo might actually be the best comparison here because of his combination of being able to hit the outside shot or drive to the basket. Waiters had that, too but wasn’t quite as good from outside.
To Frank Howard as a junior
38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
Gene Waldron as a senior
26.8m 13.7p 3.3r 5.8a 1.6s 0.0b 24.4+ 6.1mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 3.8pf 14.9- = 9.5np 6.2oe 3.3fg
Adrian Autry as a sophomore
32.7m 13.5p 5.0r 4.9a 1.9s 0.2b +25.5 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.0to 3.8pf -16.8 = 8.7NP 4.5OE 4.2FG
Josh Wright as a sophomore
12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- = 10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG
Scoop Jardine as a freshman
19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- = 9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG
Trevor Cooney as a senior
36.4M 14.2P 2.8R 2.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 21.6+ 8.3MFG 0.6MFT 1.7TO 1.5PF = 12.1- = 9.5NP 5.3OE 4.2FG
Adrian Autry is probably the best comparison here. Gene Waldron had his famous 40 points game as a senior.
To Howard Washington as a freshman
6.1m 6.9p 5.5r 3.6a 2.2s 0.4b = 18.6+ 4.4mfg 1.1mft 2.5to 1.8pf = 9.8- = 8.8NP 1.4OE 7.4FG
Eddie Moss a senior
32.8m 7.7p 2.8a 6.6a 3.0s 0.3b 20.4+ 2.2mfg 0.8mft 3.9to 3.9pf 10.8- = NP: 9.6 OE: 4.7 FG: 4.9
Greg Monroe as a freshman
15.3m 7.7p 3.1r 5.8a 0.8s 0.1b 17.5+ 4.3mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.3pf 8.9- = 8.6np 2.9oe 5.7fg
Lazarus Sims as a freshman
9.7m 5.4p 4.6r 8.0a 0.2s 2.2b +20.4 5.6mfg 0.5mft 4.1to 2.5pf -12.7= 7.7NP -0.7OE 8.4FG
Billy Edelin as a junior
15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- = 9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG
Scoop Jardine as a freshman
19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- = 9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG
No clear match here. Washington hasn’t really emerged as a ‘type’ yet. I think he has solid all-around skills so maybe Jardine might be the best match.
To Geno Thorpe as a 5th year senior
14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG
Gene Waldron as a freshman
12.9m 13.1p 2.6r 3.9a 2.7s 0.7b 23.0+ 6.2mfg 1.0mft 5.7to 5.9pf 18.8- = NP: 4.2 OE: 5.9 FG: 0.7
Michael Edwards as a sophomore
26.2m 12.0p 2.3r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b +19.5 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.3to 2.1pf -13.0 = 6.5NP 4.4OE 2.1FG
Anthony Harris as a freshman
12.2m 11.5p 2.9r 3.5a 0.7s 0.7b +19.3 7.3mfg 0.2mft 3.8to 4.4pf -15.7 = 3.6NP 4.0OE -0.4FG
Rock Lloyd as a freshman
11.8m 15.4p 6.6r 2.0a 2.2s 0.1b +26.3 8.4mfg 3.0mft 4.1to 3.9pf -19.4 = 6.9NP 4.0OE 2.9FG
Trevor Cooney as a freshman
11.2m 12.2p 2.9r 2.1a 2.6s 0.3b 20.1+ 9.1mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf = 14.2- = 5.9NP 2.7OE
Again, Geno wasn’t here very long so it’s hard to see what he might have become if he had stuck with it. Cooney looks like the best statistical match but missed even more shots than he did. Lloyd was more of a rebounder. Waldron, Edwards and even Harris had more assists. I guess it doesn’t matter now.
I will put the “etcetera” part of it in another post, probably over the weekend.
Net Points
(points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks minus missed field goals and free throws, turnovers and personal fouls; OE is “Offensive efficiency”: P-MFG-MFT; FG is “Floor Game”: NP – OE. Minutes are by number of games played, not games available to play.)
CENTERS
Paschal Chukwu
Non-conference: 129NP
25.3m 9.2p 9.6r 0.4a 1.6s 5.1b = 25.9+ 1.8mfg 1.9mft 1.9to 4.5pf = 10.1- = 15.8NP 5.5OE 10.3FG
Conference: 176NP
28.7m 6.7p 10.3r 0.7a 0.9s 3.1b = 21.7+ 1.4mfg 0.8mft 1.7to 4.3pf = 8.2- = 13.5NP 4.5OE 9.0FG
Post-Season: 55NP
27.0m 8.9p 10.1r 0.7a 0.2s 2.2b = 22.1+ 1.2mfg 1.5mft 0.5to 5.4pf = 8.6- = 13.5NP 6.2OE 7.3FG
Total: 360NP
27.2m 7.8p 10.0r 0.6a 1.0s 3.6b = 23.0+ 1.5mfg 1.3mft 1.6to 4.6pf = 9.0- = 14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Comments: Paschal has been pretty consistent all season. He blocked more shots in the pre-conference season against shorter teams, did better at the foul line after that and avoided turnovers. He committed too many fouls in the spot season but he seemed to be called for breathing on people.
Bourama Sidibie
Non-conference: 31NP
15.4m 9.9p 9.4r 0.5a 2.3s 2.3b = 24.4+ 2.1mfg 3.4mft 3.4to 7.5pf = 16.4- = 8.0NP 4.4OE 3.6FG
Conference: 35NP
10.4m 8.5p 11.2r 0.5a 0.3s 3.0b = 23.5+ 3.3mfg 1.1mft 2.5to 7.1pf = 14.0- = 9.5NP 4.1OE 5.4FG
Post-Season: 8NP
12.2m 6.6p 10.4r 0.0a 0.0s 1.6b = 18.6+ 0.5mfg 2.2mft 2.7to 8.8pf = 14.2- = 4.4NP 3.9OE 0.5FG
Total: 74NP
12.4m 8.7p 10.3r 0.4a 1.1s 2.1b = 22.6+ 2.3mfg 2.3mft 2.9to 7.6pf = 15.1- = 7.5NP 3.7OE 3.8FG
Comments: Bourama’s positives are similar to Chukwu’s. He misses more field goals and is a worse free throw shooter. He also makes more turnovers. But the big thing is that he commits fouls at a rate that prevents him from playing for long stretches. So does his knee, which may also account for the fouls because it means he can’t get to where he needs to be as well as a healthy player could.
FORWARDS
Oshae Brissett
Non-conference: 194NP
37.0m 19.8p 13.0r 1.5a 1.4s 0.7b = 36.4+ 10.8mfg 2.0mft 1.9to 2.3pf = 17.0 = 19.4NP 7.0OE 12.4FG
Conference: 214NP
38.6m 14.8p 8.1r 0.9a 1.3s 0.8b = 25.9+ 7.8mfg 0.9mft 2.1to 2.7pf = 13.5 = 12.4NP 6.1OE 6.3FG
Post-Season: 82NP
39.2m 16.5p 9.5r 0.7a 1.2s 1.4b = 29.3+ 8.9mfg 2.0mft 2.2to 2.2pf = 15.3- = 14.0NP 5.6OE 8.4FG
Total: 490NP
38.1m 15.7p 9.3r 1.0a 1.2s 0.8b = 28.0+ 8.4mfg 1.3mft 2.4to 2.0pf = 14.1- = 13.9NP 6.0OE 7.9FG
Comments: Oshae put up big numbers against the mostly lesser non-conference teams, then settled somewhat against the conference and in the post season but still had one of the better freshmen years anyone has had here. He was a good and versatile scorer, and a natural rebounder. He committed too many charging fouls but his overall foul total was low for a true freshmen.
Marek Dolezaj
Non-conference: 103NP
23.7m 8.8p 9.7r 3.1a 1.8s 1.6b = 25.0+ 2.6mfg 1.6mft 2.3to 4.5pf = 11.0- = 14.0NP 4.6OE 9.4FG
Conference: 104NP
28.7m 6.5p 5.8r 2.1a 1.0s 0.9b = 16.3+ 2.5mfg 0.5mft 1.6to 3.7pf = 8.3- = 8.0NP 3.5OE 4.5FG
Post-Season: 57NP
34.8m 12.8p 5.4r 1.1a 0.6s 1.0b = 20.9+ 3.1mfg 0.8mft 2.5to 3.6pf = 10.0- = 10.9NP 8.9OE 2.0FG
Total: 264NP
27.9m 8.3p 6.9r 2.2a 1.2s 1.1b = 19.7+ 2.6mfg 0.9mft 2.0to 3.9pf = 9.4- = 10.3NP 4.8OE 5.5FG
Comments: Marek showed his skills and smarts in the pre-conference season. The ACC season seemed to be little too fast and too physical for him. He was timid about taking his shot until late in the year, then started making them became a key player. He could make the 10 footer and finish at the basket, (partially because he wasn’t being defended). I have hopes that he can develop a three point shot. That would make him quite a player as he is an excellent passer and a good rebounder and shot blocker.
Matthew Moyer
Non-conference: 72NP
20.2m 8.4p 9.3r 0.9a 0.9s 0.6b = 20.1+ 3.4mfg 1.4mft 1.5to 2.9pf = 9.2- = 10.9NP 3.6OE 7.3FG
Conference: 64NP
17.9m 7.5p 7.5r 1.3a 0.7s 0.7b = 17.7+ 2.1mfg 1.0mft 1.7to 4.0pf = 8.8- = 8.9NP 4.4OE 4.5FG
Post-Season: 0NP
6.3m 3.2p 5.3r 1.1a 2.1s 2.1b = 13.8+ 3.2mfg 3.2mft 3.2to 4.2pf = 13.8- = 0.0NP -3.2OE +3.2FG
Total: 136NP
16.8m 7.7p 8.2r 1.1a 0.9s 0.7b = 18.6+ 2.7mfg 1.3mft 1.7to 3.5pf = 9.2- = 9.4NP 3.7OE 5.7FG
Comments: Moyer was ranked the #44 recruit in the country coming out of high school. I remember looking at his film and I really didn’t see why. We sure didn’t see why this year. Matt turned out to be just a banger with minimal ability to shoot, handle or pass the ball. He hustled. He had some good games when he could get the ball off the boards. But that was about it and he lost time to the obviously more talented Dolezaj. His per 40 minute averages benefited somewhat from what I call the “reserve’s advantage”. If he played well, he played longer. If he played poorly he got yanked. That means his numbers are skewed toward his better performances whereas a guy playing 30-40 minutes a game will be out there whether he’s playing well or not. If Matt actually played at an 8 point 8 rebound per 40m level every time out he would have played a lot more.
GUARDS
Tyus Battle
Non-conference: 164NP
37.2m 21.6p 3.1r 1.7a 1.8s 0.4b = 28.6+ 9.9mfg 0.8mft 2.1to 2.2pf = 15.0 = 13.6NP 10.9OE 2.7FG
Conference: 204NP
40.1m 19.9p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.1b = 26.6+ 9.7mfg 1.0mft 2.8to 1.9pf = 15.4 = 11.2NP 9.2OE 2.0FG
Post-Season: 46NP
39.7m 15.6p 2.7r 3.0a 0.8s 0.0b = 22.1+ 9.6mfg 0.7mft 2.0to 2.2pf = 14.5- = 7.6NP 5.3OE 2.3FG
Total: 414NP
39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- = 11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Comments: Tyus had the highest per game scoring average, (19.2), for an SU player since Hakim Warrick averaged 21.4 in 2005. And scoring should not be under-estimated: it decides who wins games. His shooting percentages were not good from the field for such a high scorer: 32.2% from three point range, 45.2% inside the arc and 39.9% overall. But he was also facing the brunt of the defense on every possession. Every opposing coach would have stopping Tyus his #1 priority. He always had someone on him and two guys if he tried to move toward the basket. My problem with his game was that he’s a 6-6 guard who averaged 3 rebounds and 2 assists per game and often had less than that. Of course JB may have wanted Howard and Battle to get back to stop the fast break and it’s not like we weren’t a good rebounding team. Tyus started using that defensive attention to set up passes to his teammates in the late going and hopefully we’ll see more of that next year. His low post-season production was due to a shooting slump that finally ended against Duke.
Frank Howard
Non-conference: 153NP
36.8m 16.5p 3.9r 6.7a 2.5s 0.3b = 29.9+ 8.6mfg 1.3mft 4.4to 2.7pf = 17.0- = 12.9NP 6.6OE 6.3FG
Conference: 161NP
39.5m 15.5p 3.2r 4.2a 1.5s 0.3b = 24.7+ 9.1mfg 1.0mft 3.0to 2.5pf = 15.6- = 9.1NP 5.4OE 4.7FG
Post-Season: 34NP
39.2m 10.4p 4.3r 3.4a 2.0s 0.3b = 20.4+ 7.7mfg 0.3mft 3.4to 3.2pf = 14.6- = 5.8NP 2.4OE 3.4FG
Total: 348NP
38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
Comments: Frank was a ‘scoring’ point guard, which is not a bad thing. Going into the season I saw him as more of a passer than a shooter. His assists declined as the season progressed and we went more and more to the dribble drive to score. But his turnovers went down and his scoring remained high until the post season when, he like battle, had a shooting slump. Maybe all those 40 mintue games caught up with our backcourt.
Howard Washington
Non-conference: 6NP
4.6m 4.0p 5.3r 4.0a 0.7s 0.7b = 14.7+ 6.7mfg 0.7mft 2.0to 2.0pf = 11.4- = 3.3NP -3.4OE 6.7FG
conference: 18NP
6.3m 10.4p 5.6r 3.2a 4.0s 0.0b = 23.2+ 1.6mfg 1.6mft 3.2to 2.4pf = 8.8- = 14.4NP 7.2OE 7.2FG
Post-Season: 0NP
(injured)
Total: 24NP
6.1m 6.9p 5.5r 3.6a 2.2s 0.4b = 18.6+ 4.4mfg 1.1mft 2.5to 1.8pf = 9.8- = 8.8NP 1.4OE 7.4FG
Comments: Howard we hardly knew ye. But I think he has potential to play a solid role in the future, although the competition for playing time in the backcourt will continue to be fierce. He was starting to make significant contributions. It’s interesting that he was a strong rebounder even though he’s three inches shorter than Battle.
Geno Thorpe
Non-conference:19NP
14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG
Conference:
(left team)
Post-Season:
(left team)
Total: 19NP
14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG
Comments: Geno could have bee n a significant contributor to the team but walked his own plank.
BLASTS FROM THE PAST
Statistically and physically comparable players from past seasons using the numbers in the SU media Guide, which now goes back to the 1980-81 season.
To Paschal Chukwu as a junior
27.2m 7.8p 10.0r 0.6a 1.0s 3.6b = 23.0+ 1.5mfg 1.3mft 1.6to 4.6pf = 9.0- = 14.0NP 5.0OE 9.0FG
Conrad McRae as a junior
29.4m 11.8p 8.4r 1.2a 2.0s 3.3b +26.7 3.6mfg 2.5mft 1.3to 5.3pf -12.7 = 14.0NP 5.7OE 8.3FG
Jeremy McNeil as a sophomore
14.7m 9.2p 10.2r 0.3a 1.3s 4.1b +25.1 1.9mfg 1.5mft 2.1to 7.6pf -13.1 = 12.0NP 5.8OE 6.2FG
Darryl Watkins as a junior
29.8m 9.6p 9.7r 0.9a 1.7s 3.8b 25.7+ 3.5mfg 1.6mft 2.5to 4.2pf 11.8- = 13.9NP 4.5OE 9.4FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a freshman
14.6m 6.0p 10.3r 0.5a 1.6s 3.4b 21.8+ 1.9mfg 1.3mft 1.6to 5.9pf 10.7- = 11.1NP 2.8OE 8.3FG
Rakeem Christmas as a junior
23.6m 9.8p 8.6r 1.1a 0.8s 3.3b +23.6 2.4mfg 0.8mft 1.3to 5.3pf -9.8 = 13.8NP 6.6OE 7.2FG
Watkins is probably the best fit. He scored a bit more and missed more shots but everything else falls into place.
To Bourama Sidibie as a freshman
12.4m 8.7p 10.3r 0.4a 1.1s 2.1b = 22.6+ 2.3mfg 2.3mft 2.9to 7.6pf = 15.1- = 7.5NP 3.7OE 3.8FG
Rodney Walker as a freshman
12.6m 10.5p 9.9r 0.6a 0.9s 0.4b 22.3+ 4.9mfg 1.5mft 1.7to 7.1pf 15.2- = 7.1NP 4.1OE 3.0FG
Herman Harried as a sophomore
7.8m 10.7p 9.9r 2.6a 1.2s 2.8b 27.2+ 4.3mfg 3.1mft 3.9to 8.2pf 19.5- = 7.7NP 3.3OE 4.4FG
Jeremy McNeil as a sophomore
15.9m 6.3p 7.9r 0.3a 0.8s 4.7b +20.0 1.3mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 7.6pf -12.0 = 8.0NP 3.8OE 4.2FG
DaShonte Riley as a freshman
4.5m 5.9p 6.6r 2.8a 0.5s 4.1b 19.9+ 1.5mfg 1.5mft 3.1to 7.1pf 13.2- = 6.7NP 2.9OE 3.8FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a senior
15.5m 4.7p 9.9r 0.8a 1.0s 2.4b = 18.8+ 1.9mfg 0.6mft 1.9to 6.3pf = 10.7- = 8.1NP 2.2OE 5.9FG
The best statistical comparison might be Herman Harried but Herman was a long-armed, (and fingered) 6-7 forward and I think Bourama’s potential greatly exceeds that of the “Helicopter”. Actually I think that’s true of all five guys. Keita’s probably the best comparison except he was a senior and had good knees.
To Oshae Brissett as a freshman
38.1m 15.7p 9.3r 1.0a 1.2s 0.8b = 28.0+ 8.4mfg 1.3mft 2.4to 2.0pf = 14.1- = 13.9NP 6.0OE 7.9FG
Sean Kerins as a senior
28.3m 15.7p 7.9r 1.4a 1.0s 0.5b 26.5+ 6.4mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf 11.5- = 15.0np 8.9oe 6.1fg
Todd Burgan as a junior
33.8m 17.9p 9.0r 3.1a 1.9s 0.3b +32.2 9.1mfg 1.8mft 4.0to 3.4pf -18.3 = 13.9NP 7.0OE 6.9FG
Damone Brown as a sophomore
24.7m 15.4p 8.8r 1.3a 1.4s 1.1b +28.0 6.3mfg 0.7mft 2.1to 4.8pf -13.9 = 14.1NP 8.4OE 5.7FG
Terrence Roberts as a sophomore
18.5m 15.6p 8.5r 1.3a 2.4s 1.8b 29.6+ 4.7mfg 2.4mft 3.0to 6.5pf 16.6- = 13.0NP 8.5OE 4.5FG
Jerami Grant as a sophomore
31.4m 15.4p 8.6r 1.8a 1.0s 0.7b = 27.5+ 5.4mfg 2.3mft 1.5to 3.0pf = 12.2- = 15.3NP 7.7OE 7.6FG
Brown is probably the closest statistical fit but I like the Grant comparison because, like Oshae, he’s all about potential.
To Marek Dolezaj as a freshman
27.9m 8.3p 6.9r 2.2a 1.2s 1.1b = 19.7+ 2.6mfg 0.9mft 2.0to 3.9pf = 9.4- = 10.3 NP 4.8OE 5.5FG
Sean Kerins as a freshman
12.1m 11.9p 7.7r 1.5a 1.1s 0.7b 22.9+ 4.4mfg 0.7mft 2.2to 4.5pf 11.8- = NP: 11.1 OE: 6.8 FG: 4.3
Herman Harried as a junior
8.0m 13.4p 9.1r 1.5a 1.0s 1.7b 26.7+ 2.6mfg 3.9mft 3.9to 5.6pf 16.0- = 10.7NP 6.9OE 3.8FG
Bobby Lazor as a freshman
7.8m 12.1p 9.1r 1.4a 1.4s 1.2b +25.2 4.7mfg 3.0mft 1.9to 5.3pf -14.9 = 10.3NP 4.4OE 5.9FG
Kristoff Ongenaet as a junior
19.2m 9.3p 9.3r 2.1a 1.4s 1.2b 23.3+ 3.0mfg 1.3mft 2.6to 4.9pf 11.8- = 11.5NP 5.0OE 6.5FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a sophomore
11.6m 7.4p 8.1r 0.2a 0.6s 3.2b = 19.5+ 1.2mfg 0.7mft 1.0to 6.1pf = 9.0- = 10.5NP 5.5OE 5.0FG
Ongenaet is the most obvious comparison but the issue of potential comes up again. Marek has much more offensive potential than Kristoff had. Lazor is kind of interesting, especially since he went on to star for our old friends at Arizona State:
Player Bio: Bobby Lazor - Arizona State University Official Athletic Site - Arizona State University
Could Marek develop into a player like that?
To Matthew Moyer as a redshirt freshman
16.8m 7.7p 8.2r 1.1a 0.9s 0.7b = 18.6+ 2.7mfg 1.3mft 1.7to 3.5pf = 9.2- = 9.4NP 3.7OE 5.7FG
Herman Harried as a sophomore
7.8m 10.7p 9.9r 2.6a 1.2s 2.8b 27.2+ 4.3mfg 3.1mft 3.9to 8.2pf 19.5- = 7.7NP 3.3OE 4.4FG
Jeremy McNeil as a freshman
15.9m 6.3p 7.9r 0.3a 0.8s 4.7b +20.0 1.3mfg 1.2mft 1.9to 7.6pf -12.0 = 8.0NP 3.8OE 4.2FG
Kristoff Ongenaet as a junior
19.2m 9.3p 9.3r 2.1a 1.4s 1.2b 23.3+ 3.0mfg 1.3mft 2.6to 4.9pf 11.8- = 11.5NP 5.0OE 6.5FG
Baye Moussa Keita as a sophomore
11.6m 7.4p 8.1r 0.2a 0.6s 3.2b = 19.5+ 1.2mfg 0.7mft 1.0to 6.1pf = 9.0- = 10.5NP 5.5OE 5.0FG
Tyler Roberson as a freshman
8.1m 10.6p 9.4r 1.2a 1.0s 1.0b = 23.2+ 8.1mfg 1.7mft 1.7to 4.2pf = 15.7- = 7.5NP 0.8OE 6.7FG
People think of Roberson when they think of Moyer: if he rebounds, he scores. But Tyler was clearly better over the last three years of his career. Keita is a good statistic match but Moyer isn’t a center. Same thing with McNeil. Ongenaet was similar in some ways but better and Harried would have been better but he committed too many fouls. So maybe Roberson as a freshman is the best comparison.
To Tyus Battle as a sophomore
39.0m 19.7p 3.0r 2.1a 1.5s 0.2b = 26.5+ 9.8mfg 0.9mft 2.4to 2.1pf = 15.2- = 11.3NP 9.0OE 2.3FG
Tony Bruin as a sophomore
23.4m 20.2p 5.8r 1.8a 1.0s 0.8b 29.6+ 6.3mfg 2.1mft 4.0to 4.8pf 17.2- = NP: 12.4 OE: 11.8 FG: 0.6
DeShaun Williams as a junior
35.0m 18.2p 4.0r 4.7a 2.4s 0.3b +29.6 10.4mfg 1.2mft 4.5to 2.8pf -18.9 = 10.7NP 6.6OE 4.1FG
Eric Devendorf as a freshman
27.1m 18.1p 3.6r 3.5a 1.5s 0.6b 27.3+ 8.3mfg 0.6mft 3.4to 3.9pf 16.2- = 11.1NP 9.2OE 1.9FG
Brandon Triche as a sophomore
28.8m 15.5p 3.7r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b 24.4+ 7.1mfg 0.6mft 2.9to 2.7pf 13.3- = 11.1NP 7.8OE 3.3FG
Dion Waiters as a freshman
16.3m 16.1p 3.8r 3.6a 2.7s 0.3b 26.5+ 8.1mfg 0.6mft 2.2to 3.3pf 14.2- = 12.3NP 7.4OE 4.9FG
Devo might actually be the best comparison here because of his combination of being able to hit the outside shot or drive to the basket. Waiters had that, too but wasn’t quite as good from outside.
To Frank Howard as a junior
38.4m 15.0p 3.6r 4.9a 1.9s 0.3b = 25.7+ 8.7mfg 1.0mft 3.5to 2.7pf = 15.9- = 9.8NP 5.3OE 4.5FG
Gene Waldron as a senior
26.8m 13.7p 3.3r 5.8a 1.6s 0.0b 24.4+ 6.1mfg 1.4mft 3.6to 3.8pf 14.9- = 9.5np 6.2oe 3.3fg
Adrian Autry as a sophomore
32.7m 13.5p 5.0r 4.9a 1.9s 0.2b +25.5 7.5mfg 1.5mft 4.0to 3.8pf -16.8 = 8.7NP 4.5OE 4.2FG
Josh Wright as a sophomore
12.5m 13.4p 4.2r 5.1a 2.8s 0.0b 25.5+ 5.5mfg 2.6mft 4.4to 2.6pf 15.1- = 10.4NP 5.3OE 5.1FG
Scoop Jardine as a freshman
19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- = 9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG
Trevor Cooney as a senior
36.4M 14.2P 2.8R 2.6A 1.8S 0.2B = 21.6+ 8.3MFG 0.6MFT 1.7TO 1.5PF = 12.1- = 9.5NP 5.3OE 4.2FG
Adrian Autry is probably the best comparison here. Gene Waldron had his famous 40 points game as a senior.
To Howard Washington as a freshman
6.1m 6.9p 5.5r 3.6a 2.2s 0.4b = 18.6+ 4.4mfg 1.1mft 2.5to 1.8pf = 9.8- = 8.8NP 1.4OE 7.4FG
Eddie Moss a senior
32.8m 7.7p 2.8a 6.6a 3.0s 0.3b 20.4+ 2.2mfg 0.8mft 3.9to 3.9pf 10.8- = NP: 9.6 OE: 4.7 FG: 4.9
Greg Monroe as a freshman
15.3m 7.7p 3.1r 5.8a 0.8s 0.1b 17.5+ 4.3mfg 0.5mft 1.8to 2.3pf 8.9- = 8.6np 2.9oe 5.7fg
Lazarus Sims as a freshman
9.7m 5.4p 4.6r 8.0a 0.2s 2.2b +20.4 5.6mfg 0.5mft 4.1to 2.5pf -12.7= 7.7NP -0.7OE 8.4FG
Billy Edelin as a junior
15.7m 10.2p 3.2r 4.5a 2.0s 0.1b 20.0+ 4.2mfg 0.9mft 3.5to 2.0pf 10.6- = 9.4NP 5.1OE 4.3FG
Scoop Jardine as a freshman
19.6m 11.2p 3.1r 5.1a 2.4s 0.2b 22.0+ 5.0mfg 0.4mft 3.7to 3.9pf 13.0- = 9.0NP 5.8OE 3.2FG
No clear match here. Washington hasn’t really emerged as a ‘type’ yet. I think he has solid all-around skills so maybe Jardine might be the best match.
To Geno Thorpe as a 5th year senior
14.3m 16.7p 2.3r 2.8a 2.8s 0.0b = 24.6+ 11.2mfg 0.5mft 3.3to 3.3pf = 18.3- = 6.3NP 5.0OE 1.3FG
Gene Waldron as a freshman
12.9m 13.1p 2.6r 3.9a 2.7s 0.7b 23.0+ 6.2mfg 1.0mft 5.7to 5.9pf 18.8- = NP: 4.2 OE: 5.9 FG: 0.7
Michael Edwards as a sophomore
26.2m 12.0p 2.3r 4.0a 1.1s 0.1b +19.5 7.0mfg 0.6mft 3.3to 2.1pf -13.0 = 6.5NP 4.4OE 2.1FG
Anthony Harris as a freshman
12.2m 11.5p 2.9r 3.5a 0.7s 0.7b +19.3 7.3mfg 0.2mft 3.8to 4.4pf -15.7 = 3.6NP 4.0OE -0.4FG
Rock Lloyd as a freshman
11.8m 15.4p 6.6r 2.0a 2.2s 0.1b +26.3 8.4mfg 3.0mft 4.1to 3.9pf -19.4 = 6.9NP 4.0OE 2.9FG
Trevor Cooney as a freshman
11.2m 12.2p 2.9r 2.1a 2.6s 0.3b 20.1+ 9.1mfg 0.4mft 1.7to 3.0pf = 14.2- = 5.9NP 2.7OE
Again, Geno wasn’t here very long so it’s hard to see what he might have become if he had stuck with it. Cooney looks like the best statistical match but missed even more shots than he did. Lloyd was more of a rebounder. Waldron, Edwards and even Harris had more assists. I guess it doesn’t matter now.
I will put the “etcetera” part of it in another post, probably over the weekend.