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Message: [QUOTE="SWC75, post: 1205355, member: 289"] I have been delayed in posting this waiting for SU athletics to re-do the box score for the California game they hastily posted on Thursday night. They’ve not done it so I felt I had to stop waiting and do something. I’ll post the Iowa game later today. SU athletics normally has a box score that contains points in the paint, points off turnovers, second chance point, fast break points and bench points, all of which I’ve decided to keep track of this season, (and points in the paint is a part of my formula for “points outside the paint” –PIP- and “the twilight zone”). For some reason they did not do that for the California game. I checked all over the internet and could not find those stats. My only option was to try to figure out those numbers myself using the play-by-play, (SU athletics normally does that, too but did not for the Cal game so I used ESPN’s). The results, frankly, suggest I didn’t get it quite right but it’s better than nothing and having season averages that don’t include one of the games. The play-byplay describes shots as lay-ups, dunks, jumpers and three pointers. I assumed lay-up and dunks are “points in the paint” and jumpers and, obviously, three pointers are outside the paint. The problem is, you can hit a jump shot in the paint. But there was no way to tell from the play-by-paly where the jumpers were coming from, so I assumed they were outside the paint. If the play-by-play showed that a shot was made within 10 seconds of a turnover with nothing else happening in between, I counted it as “points after turnover”. I have no idea if that’s correct, (or if they do it by observation: I didn’t feel like re-watching the game). Second chance points was easy- they would come after an offensive rebound. For Fast break points I again used the ten second and nothing else rule- after a defensive rebound or a steal. For bench points I totaled the guys who weren’t among the top five in mintues played except I knew Roberson stats and Gbinije comes off the bench. I wound up with 20-24 on points in the paint, 17-11 on points off turnovers, 6-4 on second chance points, 12-10 on fast break points, (which seems like a lot) and 13-7 in bench points. That may not be right but I’ll have to go with it. POP seems too high: 59-20PIP-12treys-9FT = 18 Twilight Zone points, 30POP which is clearly too high but it’s all I’ve got. Some of those jumpers, even most of them had to have been in the paint. Cal had 73-24-24-13= 12 TZ, 36 POP. [/QUOTE]

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