SWC75
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Net Points
(points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks minus missed field goals and free throws, turnovers and personal fouls)
John Gillon 20 in 40 minutes
Tyler Lydon 15 in 40 minutes
Andrew White 13 in 40 minutes
Taurean Thompson 12 in 17 minutes
Tyler Roberson 11 in 22 minutes
Franklin Howard 4 in 8 minutes
Tyus Battle -2 in 33 minutes
DaJuan Coleman DNP
Paschal Chukwu injured
Awards
Offensive Dude of the Game, (O-Dog)
(Points plus assists)
Andrew White 23
Scoring Efficiency
(Points minus field goal and free throw attempts)
Taurean Thompson 12
Sat Us Down
(Who scored the first SU basket of each half)
1st Half- John Gillon with a trey at 16:36
2nd Half- Taureen Thompson with a lay-up at 18:41
TACO Bell MVP
(Who scored the point that got us to 70, which gets you free tacos with your ticket stub)
John Gillon hit a free throw with 5:13 left.
My Man
(Who played the most minutes?)
John Gillon, Tyler Lydon and Andrew White 40 minutes
Team Stats:
POSSESSION
Rebounding
(Add each team’s offensive rebounds to their opponent’s defensive rebounds. Then figure the offensive rebounds as a percentage of that)
We rebounded 12 of our 30 misses = 40.0%
They rebounded 6 of their 27 misses = 22.2%
Effective Offensive Rebounding
(Divide second chance points by the offensive rebounds)
We got 16 points on 12 O-Rebs = 1.33 points
They got 6 points on 6 O-Rebs = 1.00 points
Turnovers
(Total turnovers – the other team’s steals = unforced turnovers)
We had 13 turnovers – 7 steals = 6 unforced
They had 8 turnovers – 4 steals = 4 unforced
Points per Takeaway
(Points off turnovers divided by the number of turnovers the other team had)
We had 10 points from 8 takeaways = 1.25 points
They had 12 points from 13 takeaways = 0.92 points
Unsettled Situations
(Effective offensive rebounding + Points per Takeaway: [Second Chance Point + Points off Turnovers] divided by [Offensive Rebounds + Opposition Turnovers)
We had 26 points in 20 unsettled situations = 1.30
They had 18 points in 21 unsettled situations = 0.86
Manufactured Possessions
(One teams rebounds + the other team’s turnovers)
We had 33 + 8= 41
They had 24 + 13 = 37
Scoring
Shooting
(shots made and attempted and the percentage for two point goal attempts, three point attempts and free throws)
We were 19 for 31 on twos, (.613), 10 for 26 on threes (.385) and 14 for 17 on frees (.824)
They were 20 for 32 on twos, (.625), 9 for 22 on threes (.409) and 14 for 17 on frees (.824)
Points
(PIP= points in the paint, POP = points outside the paint, which is total points – PIP –free throws made, TREY: points from three point shots, TZ= Twilight Zone, which is POP – TREY, two point jumpers from outside the paint, FBP = fast break points POTO= points off turnovers)
We had 34 PIP, 34 POP, 30 TREY, 4 TZ, 5 FBP, 10 POTO
They had 28 PIP, 39 POP, 27 TREY, 12 TZ, 0 FBP, 12 POTO
First Chance/Second Chance
(FCP is First Chance Points, which is total points - second chance points – fast break points – free throws made, courtesy of Pat. SCP is second chance points.)
We had 35 FCP and 7 SCP
They had 51 FCP and 6 SCP
Starters/Bench
(Total points – bench points = starters points)
Our starters scored 62 points and our bench scored 4 points
Their starters scored 29 points and their bench scored 33 points
Assists
(The percentage of a team’s baskets that were assisted)
We assisted 15 of our 29 field goals, 51.7%
They assisted 19 of their 29 field goals 65.5%
Team Offensive Efficiency
(Possessions: Field goals attempted - offensive rebounds + turnovers + 47.5% of free throws attempted. Efficiency is total points divided by possessions)
We scored 82 points in 66 possessions = 1.242 points/possession
They scored 81 points in 65 possessions = 1.246 points/ possession
It was a 131 possession game
Breakdown by Quarters
(Points scored between the beginning of the game and the 10 minute mark of the first half, then halftime, then the 10 minute mark of the second half, the end of regulation and then overtime of there was one)
12-22, 26-18, 17-24, 27-17
Fouls
(Two point shots, points in paint and free throws attempted per times fouled.)
We attempted 31 two point shots, scored 34 points in the paint, attempted 17 free throws and were fouled 15 times = 2.07, 2.27, 1.13
They attempted 32 two point shots, scored 28 points in the paint, attempted 17 free throws and were fouled 16 times = 2.00, 1.75, 1.06
Comments:
- How many people watched that game thought “John Gillon is having the best game of anybody.” It can certainly be argued but he easily had the most net points, thanks to 7 for 7 from the free throw line and 8-0 assist to turnover ratio. I think if defense were better represented in the box score the opinion might be different but his offensive numbers were the best overall.
- John Gillon’s first half trey ended the longest drought at the beginning of a half we’ve had all year (16:36). The previous longest scoring stretch was the first half of the Pitt game, which Taurean Thompson ended with a jumper at the 17:08 mark.
- This was the first game where we’d won the battle of the boards since the Florida State game. We got 12 offensive rebounds, 40% . But we also dominated the defensive boards. Clemson had only 6 offensive rebounds, (22.2%), the lowest for an SU opponent in in the last 8 games, (strangely, it was Virginia Tech, who easily beat us, who did worse at 21.9%).
- In a game we won by one point on a buzzer shot, we got 26 points in unsettled situation, (second chance + off turners) and they only got 18). The second half second chance points were 12-2.
- - It was the second straight game we’d hit more than 60% of our two point shots, (the stat that most correlates to winning). Unfortunately we also gave up over 60% so we had to win the game with our rebounding and that final three. In the five game winning streak we are 84 for 150 from two, ((56.0%). Our opposition is 85 for 162 (52.5%). But in the Dome they are 45 for 96 (46.9%) and on the road they are 40 for 66 (60.6%). For the conference season our opponents are 80 for 188, (42.6%) in the Dome and 126 for 217 on the road, ((58.1%).
- We’ve been outscored in our initial sets, (First Chance Points) four times in our five game winning streak. We won that battle only in the NC State game, (56-33). In the other games we’ve been out-scored 139-183, 11 points per game. We were down 14-26 in second chance points vs. the Wolfpack but up 55-44 in the other games. It’s the same story in fast break points: 9-23 vs. NC State but 45-14 in the other games. We’ve out-scored opponents 93 points to 61 from the line. So that’s been the primary formula: beat teams down the court, hit the offensive boards and get to the line. We’d have a losing streak if we were going 5 on 5.
- This was the second time I’ve ever seen a losing team lead in offensive efficiency, due to rounding. (82 points in 66 possessions = 1.242 vs. 81 in 65 = 1.246). But you could interpret the possessions differently. Syracuse: 57 - 12 + 13 + (.475 x 17) = 66.075. Clemson 54 - 6 + 6 + (.475 x 17) = 64.075. If I don’t round off: Syracuse 82/66.075 = 1.241. Clemson 81/64.075 = 1.264, so Clemson’s still ahead. But of course the possession formula is designed to produce an estimate anyway. This is a stat that is more meaningful for season stats or a conference games breakdown than for analyzing individual games.
(points + rebounds + assists + steals + blocks minus missed field goals and free throws, turnovers and personal fouls)
John Gillon 20 in 40 minutes
Tyler Lydon 15 in 40 minutes
Andrew White 13 in 40 minutes
Taurean Thompson 12 in 17 minutes
Tyler Roberson 11 in 22 minutes
Franklin Howard 4 in 8 minutes
Tyus Battle -2 in 33 minutes
DaJuan Coleman DNP
Paschal Chukwu injured
Awards
Offensive Dude of the Game, (O-Dog)
(Points plus assists)
Andrew White 23
Scoring Efficiency
(Points minus field goal and free throw attempts)
Taurean Thompson 12
Sat Us Down
(Who scored the first SU basket of each half)
1st Half- John Gillon with a trey at 16:36
2nd Half- Taureen Thompson with a lay-up at 18:41
TACO Bell MVP
(Who scored the point that got us to 70, which gets you free tacos with your ticket stub)
John Gillon hit a free throw with 5:13 left.
My Man
(Who played the most minutes?)
John Gillon, Tyler Lydon and Andrew White 40 minutes
Team Stats:
POSSESSION
Rebounding
(Add each team’s offensive rebounds to their opponent’s defensive rebounds. Then figure the offensive rebounds as a percentage of that)
We rebounded 12 of our 30 misses = 40.0%
They rebounded 6 of their 27 misses = 22.2%
Effective Offensive Rebounding
(Divide second chance points by the offensive rebounds)
We got 16 points on 12 O-Rebs = 1.33 points
They got 6 points on 6 O-Rebs = 1.00 points
Turnovers
(Total turnovers – the other team’s steals = unforced turnovers)
We had 13 turnovers – 7 steals = 6 unforced
They had 8 turnovers – 4 steals = 4 unforced
Points per Takeaway
(Points off turnovers divided by the number of turnovers the other team had)
We had 10 points from 8 takeaways = 1.25 points
They had 12 points from 13 takeaways = 0.92 points
Unsettled Situations
(Effective offensive rebounding + Points per Takeaway: [Second Chance Point + Points off Turnovers] divided by [Offensive Rebounds + Opposition Turnovers)
We had 26 points in 20 unsettled situations = 1.30
They had 18 points in 21 unsettled situations = 0.86
Manufactured Possessions
(One teams rebounds + the other team’s turnovers)
We had 33 + 8= 41
They had 24 + 13 = 37
Scoring
Shooting
(shots made and attempted and the percentage for two point goal attempts, three point attempts and free throws)
We were 19 for 31 on twos, (.613), 10 for 26 on threes (.385) and 14 for 17 on frees (.824)
They were 20 for 32 on twos, (.625), 9 for 22 on threes (.409) and 14 for 17 on frees (.824)
Points
(PIP= points in the paint, POP = points outside the paint, which is total points – PIP –free throws made, TREY: points from three point shots, TZ= Twilight Zone, which is POP – TREY, two point jumpers from outside the paint, FBP = fast break points POTO= points off turnovers)
We had 34 PIP, 34 POP, 30 TREY, 4 TZ, 5 FBP, 10 POTO
They had 28 PIP, 39 POP, 27 TREY, 12 TZ, 0 FBP, 12 POTO
First Chance/Second Chance
(FCP is First Chance Points, which is total points - second chance points – fast break points – free throws made, courtesy of Pat. SCP is second chance points.)
We had 35 FCP and 7 SCP
They had 51 FCP and 6 SCP
Starters/Bench
(Total points – bench points = starters points)
Our starters scored 62 points and our bench scored 4 points
Their starters scored 29 points and their bench scored 33 points
Assists
(The percentage of a team’s baskets that were assisted)
We assisted 15 of our 29 field goals, 51.7%
They assisted 19 of their 29 field goals 65.5%
Team Offensive Efficiency
(Possessions: Field goals attempted - offensive rebounds + turnovers + 47.5% of free throws attempted. Efficiency is total points divided by possessions)
We scored 82 points in 66 possessions = 1.242 points/possession
They scored 81 points in 65 possessions = 1.246 points/ possession
It was a 131 possession game
Breakdown by Quarters
(Points scored between the beginning of the game and the 10 minute mark of the first half, then halftime, then the 10 minute mark of the second half, the end of regulation and then overtime of there was one)
12-22, 26-18, 17-24, 27-17
Fouls
(Two point shots, points in paint and free throws attempted per times fouled.)
We attempted 31 two point shots, scored 34 points in the paint, attempted 17 free throws and were fouled 15 times = 2.07, 2.27, 1.13
They attempted 32 two point shots, scored 28 points in the paint, attempted 17 free throws and were fouled 16 times = 2.00, 1.75, 1.06
Comments:
- How many people watched that game thought “John Gillon is having the best game of anybody.” It can certainly be argued but he easily had the most net points, thanks to 7 for 7 from the free throw line and 8-0 assist to turnover ratio. I think if defense were better represented in the box score the opinion might be different but his offensive numbers were the best overall.
- John Gillon’s first half trey ended the longest drought at the beginning of a half we’ve had all year (16:36). The previous longest scoring stretch was the first half of the Pitt game, which Taurean Thompson ended with a jumper at the 17:08 mark.
- This was the first game where we’d won the battle of the boards since the Florida State game. We got 12 offensive rebounds, 40% . But we also dominated the defensive boards. Clemson had only 6 offensive rebounds, (22.2%), the lowest for an SU opponent in in the last 8 games, (strangely, it was Virginia Tech, who easily beat us, who did worse at 21.9%).
- In a game we won by one point on a buzzer shot, we got 26 points in unsettled situation, (second chance + off turners) and they only got 18). The second half second chance points were 12-2.
- - It was the second straight game we’d hit more than 60% of our two point shots, (the stat that most correlates to winning). Unfortunately we also gave up over 60% so we had to win the game with our rebounding and that final three. In the five game winning streak we are 84 for 150 from two, ((56.0%). Our opposition is 85 for 162 (52.5%). But in the Dome they are 45 for 96 (46.9%) and on the road they are 40 for 66 (60.6%). For the conference season our opponents are 80 for 188, (42.6%) in the Dome and 126 for 217 on the road, ((58.1%).
- We’ve been outscored in our initial sets, (First Chance Points) four times in our five game winning streak. We won that battle only in the NC State game, (56-33). In the other games we’ve been out-scored 139-183, 11 points per game. We were down 14-26 in second chance points vs. the Wolfpack but up 55-44 in the other games. It’s the same story in fast break points: 9-23 vs. NC State but 45-14 in the other games. We’ve out-scored opponents 93 points to 61 from the line. So that’s been the primary formula: beat teams down the court, hit the offensive boards and get to the line. We’d have a losing streak if we were going 5 on 5.
- This was the second time I’ve ever seen a losing team lead in offensive efficiency, due to rounding. (82 points in 66 possessions = 1.242 vs. 81 in 65 = 1.246). But you could interpret the possessions differently. Syracuse: 57 - 12 + 13 + (.475 x 17) = 66.075. Clemson 54 - 6 + 6 + (.475 x 17) = 64.075. If I don’t round off: Syracuse 82/66.075 = 1.241. Clemson 81/64.075 = 1.264, so Clemson’s still ahead. But of course the possession formula is designed to produce an estimate anyway. This is a stat that is more meaningful for season stats or a conference games breakdown than for analyzing individual games.