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Take all the positives: points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks and subtract the negatives: missed field goals, miss free throws, turnovers and fouls. The result is “Net Points.” (NP). M = minutes.
CJ Fair +23NP in 40M season: +322NP in 729M per 40M: +17.7NP
Michael Carter-Williams +17NP in 30M season: +328NP in 743M per 40M: +17.7NP
Jerami Grant +16NP in 40M season: +106NP in 378M per 40M: +11.2NP
Rakeem Christmas +14NP in 36M season: +208NP in 508M per 40M: +16.4NP
Brandon Triche +8NP in 37M season: +241NP in 697M per 40M: +14.1NP
Baye Moussa Keita -2NP in 4M season: +103NP in 311M per 40M: +13.8NP
Trevor Cooney 0NP in 13M season: +60NP in 296M per 40M: +8.1NP
DaJuan Coleman Did not play season: +82NP in 279M per 40M: +11.8NP
James Southerland Did not play season: +207NP in 382M per 40M: +21.7NP
Comment: So who is the best player on this team? It’s not Southerland. Not only is he not on the team at the present time but he’s a human roller-coaster who can go off for 30 points or give you nothing. And much of his numbers are before the Big East season. Triche has solid all-around skills but isn’t consistent enough. Grant is coming on very strong but it’s too early to anoint him the team’s best player. I think it’s between Fair and MCW. Michael is the greater talent but he’s also under greater pressure, both psychological and defensive. CJ just has a knack for being in the right place at the right time. When he stopped trying to be the next Kris Joseph and went back to playing his way, he became very productive and his numbers have steadily risen. MCW had his best game in a while vs. Notre Dame by not trying to do too much and getting his teammates into the game. Players play best when they have a roll to play and stay within it.
CJ Fair has led in “net points” 8 times, Michael Carter-Williams 6 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, James Southerland 3 times and Trevor Cooney once, (including ties).
Shooting Breakdown:
SU was 18/30, (.600) from inside the arc, 4/15 from outside, (.267) and 15/17 from the line (.882). Notre Dame was 12/32 (.375) from inside the arc, 6/20, (.300) from outside, and 5/10, (.500) from the line. 16 of our 22 baskets were assisted, (73%), vs. 14 of Notre Dame‘s 18, (78%).
For the season we are .505/.321/.678 and our opponents are .417/.283/.681.
POP: I’ll credit the Axeman for naming this. A common stat is “points in the paint”. But what about the points outside the paint? The game gets a lot harder if you have to plow through the defense to get to the basket to score. Jump shots, (and not just three pointers), are an important part of any team’s offense. You can’t rely on them too much as they are the most inconsistent part of the game but you have to have the capacity to score over the defense or else you are likely to struggle. The formula is simple: Total points minus points in the paint minus free throws.
We scored 63 points, 20 in the paint and 15 from the foul line. Thus we had 28 POP, or 44% of our points. Notre Dame had 20 POP, or 43%. We averaged 28 POP last year, 33% of our points. So far this year we are again averaging 23 POP, 30% of our scoring. Our opponents have averaged 24 POP, but that’s been 43% of their scoring.
The “Offensive Dude of the Game”, (points + assists) was CJ Fair with 18 points and 0 assists for a total of 18. So far the following players have been “Offensive Dudes”: Michael Carter-Williams (9), CJ Fair (6), Brandon Triche (5) and James Southerland (3).
Possession:
Syracuse had 9 offensive and 23 defensive rebounds. Notre Dame had 14 offensive and 14 defensive rebounds. That means that when we missed, we got the rebound 39% of the time. When they missed, they got the rebound 38% of the time. For the year we have rebounded 40.5% of our misses and the opposition have rebounded 33% of theirs. We’ve out-rebounded 14 of 22 opponents by this measure.
Notre Dame had 20 turnovers, of which 11 were Syracuse steals, (55%). Syracuse had 14 turnovers of which 9 were Notre Dame steals, (64%). We had 44 “manufactured” possessions, (our rebounds + their turnovers). Notre Dame had 38. It was the first time since the Providence game that we came out ahead. We’ve won that battle 15 times in 22 games with two even. We are an average of +10 MP for the year.
And, thanks to Blacksquirrels and Knicks411, I now understand how to compute “points per possession, (field goal attempts – offensive rebounds + turnovers plus 47.5% of free throws attempted) and here they are:
Syracuse: 45 FGA minus 9 offensive rebounds plus 10 turnovers plus 47.5% of 17 free throws = 54.075 possessions. The possessions can’t be more than one off so I’ll call that 54 possessions in which we scored 63 points or 1.167 points per possession. We are 1.089 on the season. Last season it was 1.126.
Notre Dame: 52-14+12 plus 47.5% of 10 = 54.75 possessions. Let’s call that 55 possessions, (so we won’t be more than one off) in which they scored 47 points or 0.855 points per possession. The opposition is 0.867 on the season. Last season it was 0.830.
I decided it should be a goal to score at least 15 points in every 10 minute “quarter” of the game, (college is the only level that doesn’t have quarters). You want to score more than that, of course, but if we can avoid falling under 15 in any ten minute period we should have a good scoring average because we’ll have 20 and 25 point quarters as well. The “quarterly” splits in this game were 13-13, 17-11, 13-10, 20-13.
For the year, the average score per quarter is 17-14, 18-12, 20-15, 19-16. Last year the averages per quarter were: 19-13, 19-12, 21-14, 22-16. We’ve missed the 15 point mark 21 times in 88 quarters this year, and lost 21.
“My Man”
Casey Stengel was once asked the secret of his success with the Yankees. He said “I never play a game without my man.” He didn’t explain but the reporter noticed that Yogi Berra was always in the line up somewhere, even when he wasn’t catching. Casey didn’t want to play a game without him. I decided to keep track of which players played the most minutes in each game to see which player, (or players) were Jim Boeheim’s “man”.
CJ Fair and Jerami Grant both played 40 minutes in this game. Michael Carter-Williams has led in minutes played 10 times, Brandon Triche and CJ Fair 7 times and Jerami Grant twice, (this includes ties). CJ hasn’t missed a minute in 5 games and has led or tied in minutes played for 6 games in a row. Grant also played every minute of the last two games. The absence of James Southerland was the obvious factor, along with the injury to DaJuan Coleman. We basically have two forwards and they are both playing the entire game. I would have guessed Triche might be “the man” this year because he was the senior leader and also he was both the starting shooting guard and the back-up point guard but MCW was so good that he became “the man” before the forward situation got so thin.
For fun I’ve decided to add another stat. We picked up the tradition of standing and clapping before SU’s first basket of each half from New Mexico after one of Coach Boeheim’s favorite early victories back in the 70’s. I wondered which player had done the best job of “sitting us down”: who scored the first field goal of each half? I decided to include road games.
Jerami Grant sat us down in the first half and Rakeem Christmas did it in the second half. CJ Fair has “sat us down” 11 times, Rakeem Christmas 9 times, Michael Carter-Williams 7 times, DaJuan Coleman 6 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, Jerami Grant, James Southerland 2 times and Baye Moussa Keita, and Trevor Cooney 1 time each.
CJ Fair +23NP in 40M season: +322NP in 729M per 40M: +17.7NP
Michael Carter-Williams +17NP in 30M season: +328NP in 743M per 40M: +17.7NP
Jerami Grant +16NP in 40M season: +106NP in 378M per 40M: +11.2NP
Rakeem Christmas +14NP in 36M season: +208NP in 508M per 40M: +16.4NP
Brandon Triche +8NP in 37M season: +241NP in 697M per 40M: +14.1NP
Baye Moussa Keita -2NP in 4M season: +103NP in 311M per 40M: +13.8NP
Trevor Cooney 0NP in 13M season: +60NP in 296M per 40M: +8.1NP
DaJuan Coleman Did not play season: +82NP in 279M per 40M: +11.8NP
James Southerland Did not play season: +207NP in 382M per 40M: +21.7NP
Comment: So who is the best player on this team? It’s not Southerland. Not only is he not on the team at the present time but he’s a human roller-coaster who can go off for 30 points or give you nothing. And much of his numbers are before the Big East season. Triche has solid all-around skills but isn’t consistent enough. Grant is coming on very strong but it’s too early to anoint him the team’s best player. I think it’s between Fair and MCW. Michael is the greater talent but he’s also under greater pressure, both psychological and defensive. CJ just has a knack for being in the right place at the right time. When he stopped trying to be the next Kris Joseph and went back to playing his way, he became very productive and his numbers have steadily risen. MCW had his best game in a while vs. Notre Dame by not trying to do too much and getting his teammates into the game. Players play best when they have a roll to play and stay within it.
CJ Fair has led in “net points” 8 times, Michael Carter-Williams 6 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, James Southerland 3 times and Trevor Cooney once, (including ties).
Shooting Breakdown:
SU was 18/30, (.600) from inside the arc, 4/15 from outside, (.267) and 15/17 from the line (.882). Notre Dame was 12/32 (.375) from inside the arc, 6/20, (.300) from outside, and 5/10, (.500) from the line. 16 of our 22 baskets were assisted, (73%), vs. 14 of Notre Dame‘s 18, (78%).
For the season we are .505/.321/.678 and our opponents are .417/.283/.681.
POP: I’ll credit the Axeman for naming this. A common stat is “points in the paint”. But what about the points outside the paint? The game gets a lot harder if you have to plow through the defense to get to the basket to score. Jump shots, (and not just three pointers), are an important part of any team’s offense. You can’t rely on them too much as they are the most inconsistent part of the game but you have to have the capacity to score over the defense or else you are likely to struggle. The formula is simple: Total points minus points in the paint minus free throws.
We scored 63 points, 20 in the paint and 15 from the foul line. Thus we had 28 POP, or 44% of our points. Notre Dame had 20 POP, or 43%. We averaged 28 POP last year, 33% of our points. So far this year we are again averaging 23 POP, 30% of our scoring. Our opponents have averaged 24 POP, but that’s been 43% of their scoring.
The “Offensive Dude of the Game”, (points + assists) was CJ Fair with 18 points and 0 assists for a total of 18. So far the following players have been “Offensive Dudes”: Michael Carter-Williams (9), CJ Fair (6), Brandon Triche (5) and James Southerland (3).
Possession:
Syracuse had 9 offensive and 23 defensive rebounds. Notre Dame had 14 offensive and 14 defensive rebounds. That means that when we missed, we got the rebound 39% of the time. When they missed, they got the rebound 38% of the time. For the year we have rebounded 40.5% of our misses and the opposition have rebounded 33% of theirs. We’ve out-rebounded 14 of 22 opponents by this measure.
Notre Dame had 20 turnovers, of which 11 were Syracuse steals, (55%). Syracuse had 14 turnovers of which 9 were Notre Dame steals, (64%). We had 44 “manufactured” possessions, (our rebounds + their turnovers). Notre Dame had 38. It was the first time since the Providence game that we came out ahead. We’ve won that battle 15 times in 22 games with two even. We are an average of +10 MP for the year.
And, thanks to Blacksquirrels and Knicks411, I now understand how to compute “points per possession, (field goal attempts – offensive rebounds + turnovers plus 47.5% of free throws attempted) and here they are:
Syracuse: 45 FGA minus 9 offensive rebounds plus 10 turnovers plus 47.5% of 17 free throws = 54.075 possessions. The possessions can’t be more than one off so I’ll call that 54 possessions in which we scored 63 points or 1.167 points per possession. We are 1.089 on the season. Last season it was 1.126.
Notre Dame: 52-14+12 plus 47.5% of 10 = 54.75 possessions. Let’s call that 55 possessions, (so we won’t be more than one off) in which they scored 47 points or 0.855 points per possession. The opposition is 0.867 on the season. Last season it was 0.830.
I decided it should be a goal to score at least 15 points in every 10 minute “quarter” of the game, (college is the only level that doesn’t have quarters). You want to score more than that, of course, but if we can avoid falling under 15 in any ten minute period we should have a good scoring average because we’ll have 20 and 25 point quarters as well. The “quarterly” splits in this game were 13-13, 17-11, 13-10, 20-13.
For the year, the average score per quarter is 17-14, 18-12, 20-15, 19-16. Last year the averages per quarter were: 19-13, 19-12, 21-14, 22-16. We’ve missed the 15 point mark 21 times in 88 quarters this year, and lost 21.
“My Man”
Casey Stengel was once asked the secret of his success with the Yankees. He said “I never play a game without my man.” He didn’t explain but the reporter noticed that Yogi Berra was always in the line up somewhere, even when he wasn’t catching. Casey didn’t want to play a game without him. I decided to keep track of which players played the most minutes in each game to see which player, (or players) were Jim Boeheim’s “man”.
CJ Fair and Jerami Grant both played 40 minutes in this game. Michael Carter-Williams has led in minutes played 10 times, Brandon Triche and CJ Fair 7 times and Jerami Grant twice, (this includes ties). CJ hasn’t missed a minute in 5 games and has led or tied in minutes played for 6 games in a row. Grant also played every minute of the last two games. The absence of James Southerland was the obvious factor, along with the injury to DaJuan Coleman. We basically have two forwards and they are both playing the entire game. I would have guessed Triche might be “the man” this year because he was the senior leader and also he was both the starting shooting guard and the back-up point guard but MCW was so good that he became “the man” before the forward situation got so thin.
For fun I’ve decided to add another stat. We picked up the tradition of standing and clapping before SU’s first basket of each half from New Mexico after one of Coach Boeheim’s favorite early victories back in the 70’s. I wondered which player had done the best job of “sitting us down”: who scored the first field goal of each half? I decided to include road games.
Jerami Grant sat us down in the first half and Rakeem Christmas did it in the second half. CJ Fair has “sat us down” 11 times, Rakeem Christmas 9 times, Michael Carter-Williams 7 times, DaJuan Coleman 6 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, Jerami Grant, James Southerland 2 times and Baye Moussa Keita, and Trevor Cooney 1 time each.
