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Take all the positives: points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks and subtract the negatives: missed field goals, miss free throws, turnovers and fouls. The result is “Net Points.” (NP). M = minutes.
Michael Carter-Williams +30NP in 37M season: +358NP in 780M per 40M: +18.4NP
Brandon Triche +20NP in 36M season: +261NP in 733M per 40M: +14.2NP
CJ Fair +18NP in 39M season: +340NP in 768M per 40M: +17.7NP
James Southerland +12NP in 26M season: +219NP in 408M per 40M: +21.5NP
Baye Moussa Keita +9NP in 22M season: +112NP in 333M per 40M: +13.5NP
Jerami Grant 0NP in 15M season: +106NP in 393M per 40M: +10.8NP
Trevor Cooney 0NP in 7M season: +60NP in 303M per 40M: +7.9NP
Rakeem Christmas -2NP in 18M season: +206NP in 526M per 40M: +15.7NP
DaJuan Coleman Did not play season: +82NP in 279M per 40M: +11.8NP
Comment: So who is the best player on this team? It’s best not to know. Carter-Williams had the sort of game he was having Monmouth (35NP) and Central Connecticut (30NP) but he had it against a Big East team. But would he have had such a game without Fair and Triche, Southerland and Keita playing as well as they did?
CJ Fair has led in “net points” 8 times, Michael Carter-Williams 7 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, James Southerland 3 times and Trevor Cooney once, (including ties).
Shooting Breakdown:
SU was 19/32, (.594) from inside the arc, 10/22 from outside, (.455) and 9/10 from the line (.900). St. John’s was 18/33 (.545) from inside the arc, 5/22, (.227) from outside, and 7/10, (.700) from the line. 20 of our 29 baskets were assisted, (69%), vs. 14 of St. John’s‘s 23, (61%).
For the season we are .508/.328/.683 and our opponents are .422/.281/.681. After shooting 40 for 47 form the line in the last three games (.851), we are now out-shooting our opposition across the board.
POP: I’ll credit the Axeman for naming this. A common stat is “points in the paint”. But what about the points outside the paint? The game gets a lot harder if you have to plow through the defense to get to the basket to score. Jump shots, (and not just three pointers), are an important part of any team’s offense. You can’t rely on them too much as they are the most inconsistent part of the game but you have to have the capacity to score over the defense or else you are likely to struggle. The formula is simple: Total points minus points in the paint minus free throws.
We scored 77 points, 32 in the paint and 9 from the foul line. Thus we had 36 POP, or 47% of our points. St. John’s had 19 POP, or 33%. We averaged 28 POP last year, 33% of our points. So far this year we are averaging 23 POP, 31% of our scoring. Our opponents have also averaged 23 POP, but that’s been 40% of their scoring.
The “Offensive Dude of the Game”, (points + assists) was Michael Carter-Williams with 17 points and 8 assists for a total of 25. So far the following players have been “Offensive Dudes”: Michael Carter-Williams (10), CJ Fair (6), Brandon Triche (5) and James Southerland (3).
Possession:
Syracuse had 6 offensive and 24 defensive rebounds. St. John’s had 10 offensive and 20 defensive rebounds. That means that when we missed, we got the rebound 23% of the time. When they missed, they got the rebound 29% of the time. For the year we have rebounded 40% of our misses and the opposition have rebounded 33% of theirs. We’ve out-rebounded 14 of 23 opponents by this measure.
St. John’s had 16 turnovers, of which 11 were Syracuse steals, (69%). Syracuse had 12 turnovers of which 4 were St. John’s steals, (33%). We had 46 “manufactured” possessions, (our rebounds + their turnovers). St. John’s had 42. We’ve won that battle 16 times in 23 games with two even. We are an average of +10 MP for the year.
And, thanks to Blacksquirrels and Knicks411, I now understand how to compute “points per possession, (field goal attempts – offensive rebounds + turnovers plus 47.5% of free throws attempted) and here they are:
Syracuse: 54 FGA minus 6 offensive rebounds plus 12 turnovers plus 47.5% of 10 free throws = 64.75 possessions. The possessions can’t be more than one off so I’ll call that 65 possessions in which we scored 77 points or 1.185 points per possession. We are 1.093 on the season. Last season it was 1.126.
St. John’s: 55-10+16 plus 47.5% of 10 = 65.75 possessions. Let’s call that 66 possessions, (so we won’t be more than one off) in which they scored 58 points or 0.879 points per possession. The opposition is 0.879 on the season. Last season it was 0.830.
I decided it should be a goal to score at least 15 points in every 10 minute “quarter” of the game, (college is the only level that doesn’t have quarters). You want to score more than that, of course, but if we can avoid falling under 15 in any ten minute period we should have a good scoring average because we’ll have 20 and 25 point quarters as well. The “quarterly” splits in this game were 21-10, 16-14, 15-19, 25-15.
For the year, the average score per quarter is 18-14, 18-12, 19-15, 20-16. Last year the averages per quarter were: 19-13, 19-12, 21-14, 22-16. We’ve missed the 15 point mark 21 times in 92 quarters this year, and lost 22.
“My Man”
Casey Stengel was once asked the secret of his success with the Yankees. He said “I never play a game without my man.” He didn’t explain but the reporter noticed that Yogi Berra was always in the line up somewhere, even when he wasn’t catching. Casey didn’t want to play a game without him. I decided to keep track of which players played the most minutes in each game to see which player, (or players) were Jim Boeheim’s “man”.
CJ Fair played 39 minutes in this game. Michael Carter-Williams has led in minutes played 10 times, CJ Fair 8 times Brandon Triche 7 times and Jerami Grant twice, (this includes ties).
For fun I’ve decided to add another stat. We picked up the tradition of standing and clapping before SU’s first basket of each half from New Mexico after one of Coach Boeheim’s favorite early victories back in the 70’s. I wondered which player had done the best job of “sitting us down”: who scored the first field goal of each half? I decided to include road games.
CJ Fair sat us down in the first half and Michael Carter-Williams did it in the second half. CJ Fair has “sat us down” 12 times, Rakeem Christmas 9 times, Michael Carter-Williams 8 times, DaJuan Coleman 6 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, Jerami Grant, James Southerland 2 times and Baye Moussa Keita, and Trevor Cooney 1 time each.
Michael Carter-Williams +30NP in 37M season: +358NP in 780M per 40M: +18.4NP
Brandon Triche +20NP in 36M season: +261NP in 733M per 40M: +14.2NP
CJ Fair +18NP in 39M season: +340NP in 768M per 40M: +17.7NP
James Southerland +12NP in 26M season: +219NP in 408M per 40M: +21.5NP
Baye Moussa Keita +9NP in 22M season: +112NP in 333M per 40M: +13.5NP
Jerami Grant 0NP in 15M season: +106NP in 393M per 40M: +10.8NP
Trevor Cooney 0NP in 7M season: +60NP in 303M per 40M: +7.9NP
Rakeem Christmas -2NP in 18M season: +206NP in 526M per 40M: +15.7NP
DaJuan Coleman Did not play season: +82NP in 279M per 40M: +11.8NP
Comment: So who is the best player on this team? It’s best not to know. Carter-Williams had the sort of game he was having Monmouth (35NP) and Central Connecticut (30NP) but he had it against a Big East team. But would he have had such a game without Fair and Triche, Southerland and Keita playing as well as they did?
CJ Fair has led in “net points” 8 times, Michael Carter-Williams 7 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, James Southerland 3 times and Trevor Cooney once, (including ties).
Shooting Breakdown:
SU was 19/32, (.594) from inside the arc, 10/22 from outside, (.455) and 9/10 from the line (.900). St. John’s was 18/33 (.545) from inside the arc, 5/22, (.227) from outside, and 7/10, (.700) from the line. 20 of our 29 baskets were assisted, (69%), vs. 14 of St. John’s‘s 23, (61%).
For the season we are .508/.328/.683 and our opponents are .422/.281/.681. After shooting 40 for 47 form the line in the last three games (.851), we are now out-shooting our opposition across the board.
POP: I’ll credit the Axeman for naming this. A common stat is “points in the paint”. But what about the points outside the paint? The game gets a lot harder if you have to plow through the defense to get to the basket to score. Jump shots, (and not just three pointers), are an important part of any team’s offense. You can’t rely on them too much as they are the most inconsistent part of the game but you have to have the capacity to score over the defense or else you are likely to struggle. The formula is simple: Total points minus points in the paint minus free throws.
We scored 77 points, 32 in the paint and 9 from the foul line. Thus we had 36 POP, or 47% of our points. St. John’s had 19 POP, or 33%. We averaged 28 POP last year, 33% of our points. So far this year we are averaging 23 POP, 31% of our scoring. Our opponents have also averaged 23 POP, but that’s been 40% of their scoring.
The “Offensive Dude of the Game”, (points + assists) was Michael Carter-Williams with 17 points and 8 assists for a total of 25. So far the following players have been “Offensive Dudes”: Michael Carter-Williams (10), CJ Fair (6), Brandon Triche (5) and James Southerland (3).
Possession:
Syracuse had 6 offensive and 24 defensive rebounds. St. John’s had 10 offensive and 20 defensive rebounds. That means that when we missed, we got the rebound 23% of the time. When they missed, they got the rebound 29% of the time. For the year we have rebounded 40% of our misses and the opposition have rebounded 33% of theirs. We’ve out-rebounded 14 of 23 opponents by this measure.
St. John’s had 16 turnovers, of which 11 were Syracuse steals, (69%). Syracuse had 12 turnovers of which 4 were St. John’s steals, (33%). We had 46 “manufactured” possessions, (our rebounds + their turnovers). St. John’s had 42. We’ve won that battle 16 times in 23 games with two even. We are an average of +10 MP for the year.
And, thanks to Blacksquirrels and Knicks411, I now understand how to compute “points per possession, (field goal attempts – offensive rebounds + turnovers plus 47.5% of free throws attempted) and here they are:
Syracuse: 54 FGA minus 6 offensive rebounds plus 12 turnovers plus 47.5% of 10 free throws = 64.75 possessions. The possessions can’t be more than one off so I’ll call that 65 possessions in which we scored 77 points or 1.185 points per possession. We are 1.093 on the season. Last season it was 1.126.
St. John’s: 55-10+16 plus 47.5% of 10 = 65.75 possessions. Let’s call that 66 possessions, (so we won’t be more than one off) in which they scored 58 points or 0.879 points per possession. The opposition is 0.879 on the season. Last season it was 0.830.
I decided it should be a goal to score at least 15 points in every 10 minute “quarter” of the game, (college is the only level that doesn’t have quarters). You want to score more than that, of course, but if we can avoid falling under 15 in any ten minute period we should have a good scoring average because we’ll have 20 and 25 point quarters as well. The “quarterly” splits in this game were 21-10, 16-14, 15-19, 25-15.
For the year, the average score per quarter is 18-14, 18-12, 19-15, 20-16. Last year the averages per quarter were: 19-13, 19-12, 21-14, 22-16. We’ve missed the 15 point mark 21 times in 92 quarters this year, and lost 22.
“My Man”
Casey Stengel was once asked the secret of his success with the Yankees. He said “I never play a game without my man.” He didn’t explain but the reporter noticed that Yogi Berra was always in the line up somewhere, even when he wasn’t catching. Casey didn’t want to play a game without him. I decided to keep track of which players played the most minutes in each game to see which player, (or players) were Jim Boeheim’s “man”.
CJ Fair played 39 minutes in this game. Michael Carter-Williams has led in minutes played 10 times, CJ Fair 8 times Brandon Triche 7 times and Jerami Grant twice, (this includes ties).
For fun I’ve decided to add another stat. We picked up the tradition of standing and clapping before SU’s first basket of each half from New Mexico after one of Coach Boeheim’s favorite early victories back in the 70’s. I wondered which player had done the best job of “sitting us down”: who scored the first field goal of each half? I decided to include road games.
CJ Fair sat us down in the first half and Michael Carter-Williams did it in the second half. CJ Fair has “sat us down” 12 times, Rakeem Christmas 9 times, Michael Carter-Williams 8 times, DaJuan Coleman 6 times, Brandon Triche 5 times, Jerami Grant, James Southerland 2 times and Baye Moussa Keita, and Trevor Cooney 1 time each.