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Take all the positives: points, rebounds, assists, steals and blocks and subtract the negatives: missed field goals, miss free throws, turnovers and fouls. The result is “Net Points.” (NP). M = minutes.
(I’ve just double-checked these numbers against the raw data on the SU athletic website so there may be some minor adjustments beyond adding in the Marquette game.)
CJ Fair +24NP in 38M season: +499NP in 1218M per 40M: +16.1NP
Baye Moussa Keita +10NP in 26M season: +168NP in 573M per 40M: +11.6NP
James Southerland +6NP in 28M season: +371NP in 833M per 40M: +18.1NP
Michael Carter-Williams +4NP in 36M season: +507NP in 1232M per 40M: +16.8NP
Rakeem Christmas +3NP in 14M season: +230NP in 764M per 40M: +12.1NP
Jerami Grant -2NP in 14M season: +124NP in 505M per 40M: +10.3NP
Trevor Cooney -5NP in 12M season +57NP in 400M per 40M: +6.4NP
Brandon Triche -6NP in 32M season: +333NP in 1170M per 40M: +11.9NP
DaJuan Coleman 0NP in 0M season: +81NP in 290M per 40M: +11.2NP
Comment: The overall game numbers don’t really tell the whole story of this game. We dominated the first 25 minutes but got annihilated over the last 15. The net result is a competitive game but we were not competitive when it really counted. But the sour ending masked a nice comeback game by CJ Fair.
It did not obscure a return to, (bad), form by Brandon Triche and Trevor Cooney. I think Michael Carter-Williams late struggles were in part caused by two injuries he suffered down the stretch. He went down hard twice and hurt an hand or wrist and an ankle. He was 2 for 9 from the line, most of the misses after the injuries.
CJ Fair has led in “net points” 12 times, Michael Carter-Williams 10 times, James Southerland 8 times, Brandon Triche 7 times, Jerami Grant, Trevor Cooney and Baye Moussa Keita once each, (including ties).
Shooting Breakdown:
SU was 11/27, (.407) from inside the arc, 9/22 from outside, (.409) and 12/26 from the line (.462). Louisville was 17/38 (.447) from inside the arc, 6/19, (.316) from outside, and 26/36, (.722) from the line. If you maintain the number of attempts but reverse the percentages, we score 64 points and they score 71 points. If we shot what our opponents shot in every game this year, we’d be 14-21, not 26-9.
For the season we are .489/.334/.675 and our opponents are .429/.298/.678. (Last year’s team was .520 from two point range. The 2010 team was .571.) 11 of our 20 baskets were assisted, (55%), vs. 20 of Louisville‘s 23, (87%). They had more assists than we had baskets.
Thanks to Blacksquirrels and Knicks411, I now understand how to compute “points per possession, (field goal attempts – offensive rebounds + turnovers plus 47.5% of free throws attempted) and here they are:
Syracuse: 49 FGA minus 18 offensive rebounds plus 20 turnovers plus 47.5% of 26 free throws = 63.35 possessions. The possessions can’t be more than one off so I’ll call that 64 possessions in which we scored 61 points or 0.953 points per possession. We are 1.075 on the season. Last season it was 1.126.
Louisville: 57-19+11 plus 47.5% of 36 = 66.1 possessions. Let’s call that 65 possessions, (so we won’t be more than one off) in which they scored 78 points or 1.200 points per possession. The opposition is 0.908 on the season. Last season it was 0.830.
POP: I’ll credit the Axeman for naming this. A common stat is “points in the paint”. But what about the points outside the paint? The game gets a lot harder if you have to plow through the defense to get to the basket to score. Jump shots, (and not just three pointers), are an important part of any team’s offense. You can’t rely on them too much as they are the most inconsistent part of the game but you have to have the capacity to score over the defense or else you are likely to struggle. The formula is simple: Total points minus points in the paint minus free throws.
We scored 61 points, 18 in the paint and 12 from the foul line. Thus we had 31 POP or 40% of our points. Louisville had 32 POP, or 40%. We averaged 28 POP last year, 33% of our points. So far this year we are averaging 24 POP, 34% of our scoring. We’ve averaged 26 POP at the Dome and 24 away from it. Our opponents have averaged 24 POP, but that’s been 40% of their scoring.
The “Offensive Dude of the Game”, (points + assists) was CJ Fair, with 21 points and 0 assists for a total of 21. So far the following players have been “Offensive Dudes”: Michael Carter-Williams (13), CJ Fair (10) Brandon Triche (8) and James Southerland (6).
I decided it should be a goal to score at least 15 points in every 10 minute “quarter” of the game, (college is the only level that doesn’t have quarters). You want to score more than that, of course, but if we can avoid falling under 15 in any ten minute period we should have a good scoring average because we’ll have 20 and 25 point quarters as well. The “quarterly” splits in this game were 17-13, 18-9. 13-25. 13-31.
For the year, the average score per quarter is 16-14, 18-12, 18-15, 19-18. Last year the averages per quarter were: 15-14, 19-12, 18-17, 21-18. We’ve missed the 15 point mark 38 times in 136 quarters this year, and lost 39.
For fun I’ve decided to add another stat. We picked up the tradition of standing and clapping before SU’s first basket of each half from New Mexico after one of Coach Boeheim’s favorite early victories back in the 70’s. I wondered which player had done the best job of “sitting us down”: who scored the first field goal of each half? I decided to include road games.
CJ Fair sat us down in the first half, Brandon Triche in the second. CJ Fair has “sat us down” 18 times, Rakeem Christmas 14 times, Michael Carter-Williams 13 times, Brandon Triche 11 times, DaJuan Coleman 6 times, James Southerland 3 times, Jerami Grant 2 times and Baye Moussa Keita, and Trevor Cooney 1 time each.
Possession:
Syracuse had 18 offensive and 38 defensive rebounds Georgetown had 19 offensive and 40 defensive rebounds. That means that when we missed, we got the rebound 47.4% of the time. When they missed, they got the rebound 47.5% of the time. For the year we have rebounded 40% of our misses and the opposition have rebounded 34% of theirs. We’ve out-rebounded 21 of 35 opponents by this measure.
Louisville had 11 turnovers, of which 6 were Syracuse steals, (55%). Syracuse had 20 turnovers of which 11 were Louisville steals, (55%). We had 50 “manufactured” possessions, (our rebounds + their turnovers). Louisville had 59. We have won this battle 21 times in 35 games, with two games even. We’ve averaged 7 more MP’s per game, +4 in Big East games. Gaining possession has not been a big issue, overall, but it is against the physical teams we are meeting in this tournament.
The Centers
I think our tandem of centers should get a total of at least 20 points + rebounds + blocks per game. They are averaging 27 on the season but only 18 in Big East games. In the Syracuse game Rakeem Christmas had 2 points, 3 rebounds and 2 blocks while Baye Moussa Keita had 8 points, 6 rebounds and 3 blocks, DaJuan Coleman had 0 points, 0 rebounds and 0 blocks for a total of 24 We’ve failed to reach 20 11 times, all in the 22 conference games. Christmas has contributed the most 20 times, Keita 12 times and the injured DaJuan Coleman 5 times, (includes ties).
“My Man”
Casey Stengel was once asked the secret of his success with the Yankees. He said “I never play a game without my man.” He didn’t explain but the reporter noticed that Yogi Berra was always in the line up somewhere, even when he wasn’t catching. Casey didn’t want to play a game without him. I decided to keep track of which players played the most minutes in each game to see which player, (or players) were Jim Boeheim’s “man”.
CJ Fair led the team with 38 minutes played in this game. Michael Carter-Williams has led in minutes played 17 times, CJ Fair 14 times, Brandon Triche 10 times Jerami Grant twice and James Southerland , (this includes ties).
(I’ve just double-checked these numbers against the raw data on the SU athletic website so there may be some minor adjustments beyond adding in the Marquette game.)
CJ Fair +24NP in 38M season: +499NP in 1218M per 40M: +16.1NP
Baye Moussa Keita +10NP in 26M season: +168NP in 573M per 40M: +11.6NP
James Southerland +6NP in 28M season: +371NP in 833M per 40M: +18.1NP
Michael Carter-Williams +4NP in 36M season: +507NP in 1232M per 40M: +16.8NP
Rakeem Christmas +3NP in 14M season: +230NP in 764M per 40M: +12.1NP
Jerami Grant -2NP in 14M season: +124NP in 505M per 40M: +10.3NP
Trevor Cooney -5NP in 12M season +57NP in 400M per 40M: +6.4NP
Brandon Triche -6NP in 32M season: +333NP in 1170M per 40M: +11.9NP
DaJuan Coleman 0NP in 0M season: +81NP in 290M per 40M: +11.2NP
Comment: The overall game numbers don’t really tell the whole story of this game. We dominated the first 25 minutes but got annihilated over the last 15. The net result is a competitive game but we were not competitive when it really counted. But the sour ending masked a nice comeback game by CJ Fair.
It did not obscure a return to, (bad), form by Brandon Triche and Trevor Cooney. I think Michael Carter-Williams late struggles were in part caused by two injuries he suffered down the stretch. He went down hard twice and hurt an hand or wrist and an ankle. He was 2 for 9 from the line, most of the misses after the injuries.
CJ Fair has led in “net points” 12 times, Michael Carter-Williams 10 times, James Southerland 8 times, Brandon Triche 7 times, Jerami Grant, Trevor Cooney and Baye Moussa Keita once each, (including ties).
Shooting Breakdown:
SU was 11/27, (.407) from inside the arc, 9/22 from outside, (.409) and 12/26 from the line (.462). Louisville was 17/38 (.447) from inside the arc, 6/19, (.316) from outside, and 26/36, (.722) from the line. If you maintain the number of attempts but reverse the percentages, we score 64 points and they score 71 points. If we shot what our opponents shot in every game this year, we’d be 14-21, not 26-9.
For the season we are .489/.334/.675 and our opponents are .429/.298/.678. (Last year’s team was .520 from two point range. The 2010 team was .571.) 11 of our 20 baskets were assisted, (55%), vs. 20 of Louisville‘s 23, (87%). They had more assists than we had baskets.
Thanks to Blacksquirrels and Knicks411, I now understand how to compute “points per possession, (field goal attempts – offensive rebounds + turnovers plus 47.5% of free throws attempted) and here they are:
Syracuse: 49 FGA minus 18 offensive rebounds plus 20 turnovers plus 47.5% of 26 free throws = 63.35 possessions. The possessions can’t be more than one off so I’ll call that 64 possessions in which we scored 61 points or 0.953 points per possession. We are 1.075 on the season. Last season it was 1.126.
Louisville: 57-19+11 plus 47.5% of 36 = 66.1 possessions. Let’s call that 65 possessions, (so we won’t be more than one off) in which they scored 78 points or 1.200 points per possession. The opposition is 0.908 on the season. Last season it was 0.830.
POP: I’ll credit the Axeman for naming this. A common stat is “points in the paint”. But what about the points outside the paint? The game gets a lot harder if you have to plow through the defense to get to the basket to score. Jump shots, (and not just three pointers), are an important part of any team’s offense. You can’t rely on them too much as they are the most inconsistent part of the game but you have to have the capacity to score over the defense or else you are likely to struggle. The formula is simple: Total points minus points in the paint minus free throws.
We scored 61 points, 18 in the paint and 12 from the foul line. Thus we had 31 POP or 40% of our points. Louisville had 32 POP, or 40%. We averaged 28 POP last year, 33% of our points. So far this year we are averaging 24 POP, 34% of our scoring. We’ve averaged 26 POP at the Dome and 24 away from it. Our opponents have averaged 24 POP, but that’s been 40% of their scoring.
The “Offensive Dude of the Game”, (points + assists) was CJ Fair, with 21 points and 0 assists for a total of 21. So far the following players have been “Offensive Dudes”: Michael Carter-Williams (13), CJ Fair (10) Brandon Triche (8) and James Southerland (6).
I decided it should be a goal to score at least 15 points in every 10 minute “quarter” of the game, (college is the only level that doesn’t have quarters). You want to score more than that, of course, but if we can avoid falling under 15 in any ten minute period we should have a good scoring average because we’ll have 20 and 25 point quarters as well. The “quarterly” splits in this game were 17-13, 18-9. 13-25. 13-31.
For the year, the average score per quarter is 16-14, 18-12, 18-15, 19-18. Last year the averages per quarter were: 15-14, 19-12, 18-17, 21-18. We’ve missed the 15 point mark 38 times in 136 quarters this year, and lost 39.
For fun I’ve decided to add another stat. We picked up the tradition of standing and clapping before SU’s first basket of each half from New Mexico after one of Coach Boeheim’s favorite early victories back in the 70’s. I wondered which player had done the best job of “sitting us down”: who scored the first field goal of each half? I decided to include road games.
CJ Fair sat us down in the first half, Brandon Triche in the second. CJ Fair has “sat us down” 18 times, Rakeem Christmas 14 times, Michael Carter-Williams 13 times, Brandon Triche 11 times, DaJuan Coleman 6 times, James Southerland 3 times, Jerami Grant 2 times and Baye Moussa Keita, and Trevor Cooney 1 time each.
Possession:
Syracuse had 18 offensive and 38 defensive rebounds Georgetown had 19 offensive and 40 defensive rebounds. That means that when we missed, we got the rebound 47.4% of the time. When they missed, they got the rebound 47.5% of the time. For the year we have rebounded 40% of our misses and the opposition have rebounded 34% of theirs. We’ve out-rebounded 21 of 35 opponents by this measure.
Louisville had 11 turnovers, of which 6 were Syracuse steals, (55%). Syracuse had 20 turnovers of which 11 were Louisville steals, (55%). We had 50 “manufactured” possessions, (our rebounds + their turnovers). Louisville had 59. We have won this battle 21 times in 35 games, with two games even. We’ve averaged 7 more MP’s per game, +4 in Big East games. Gaining possession has not been a big issue, overall, but it is against the physical teams we are meeting in this tournament.
The Centers
I think our tandem of centers should get a total of at least 20 points + rebounds + blocks per game. They are averaging 27 on the season but only 18 in Big East games. In the Syracuse game Rakeem Christmas had 2 points, 3 rebounds and 2 blocks while Baye Moussa Keita had 8 points, 6 rebounds and 3 blocks, DaJuan Coleman had 0 points, 0 rebounds and 0 blocks for a total of 24 We’ve failed to reach 20 11 times, all in the 22 conference games. Christmas has contributed the most 20 times, Keita 12 times and the injured DaJuan Coleman 5 times, (includes ties).
“My Man”
Casey Stengel was once asked the secret of his success with the Yankees. He said “I never play a game without my man.” He didn’t explain but the reporter noticed that Yogi Berra was always in the line up somewhere, even when he wasn’t catching. Casey didn’t want to play a game without him. I decided to keep track of which players played the most minutes in each game to see which player, (or players) were Jim Boeheim’s “man”.
CJ Fair led the team with 38 minutes played in this game. Michael Carter-Williams has led in minutes played 17 times, CJ Fair 14 times, Brandon Triche 10 times Jerami Grant twice and James Southerland , (this includes ties).
