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Message: [QUOTE="Sbucketball, post: 5263119, member: 8555"] When you're 177 in December, you need more than quality wins. Beating #91 NC State isn't going to do it, neither is beating 50 or 60, although we need to do all that too. We need to beat Tenn, Duke and UNC or at least 2 of 3, and then beat the solid teams too. But if we beat a good amount of those quality teams and lose to those big time teams, we're on the outside looking in, given how the ACC looks again. It feels like a lifetime since we haven't started in a hole and could just count on quality wins and no slip ups. [/QUOTE]