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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 5332586, member: 363"] If Doug stayed the program would have been a winner moving forward from 2012, he had real momentum, had some nice recruits lined up that never came and Doug didn't need a bunch of glitz and glitter on the recruiting end. He also would have finally had better facilities as well. He brought in enough talent necessary to win 6-9 games a year. The O line was a tough group of kids, really good unit and that is easier said than done. 2012 O line was best I can remember in 30 years [/QUOTE]