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Message: [QUOTE="IthacaBarrel, post: 5334093, member: 363"] I think Doug was the best pure football coach we have had from an X's and O's perspective since P & D and I don't even think it's very close at all. His personality wasn't for everyone but Doug was also liked by plenty of people close to the program and the community. He's a much better dude than he gets credit for. He just hates the media and a lot of the other crap that goes with the job and I am not saying that that's not on him because it is. He definitely was tough when dealing with a lot of people but like I said a much better dude than he gets credit for on a personal level. He didn't get along with Gross, didn't want to work for a new owner in Buffalo and thought he could get the Jets job, hates the media (part of the job I know) but is what it is. I also think he underestimated the condition the program was in when he took over from GROB [/QUOTE]