New NCAA rules this year . . .

[Devilsadvocate]

Intention is to benefit the offense – and increase scoring – by limiting hand checking and making it more difficult to draw a charge. Some are expecting a big impact.
Am I wrong to think these new rules will hurt schools that play man-to-man more than those that play a 2-3 zone?

 

[DonLightfoot]

I think the "hand checking" will hurt the man-to-man defenses more than the zone.

Good to see them looking at those "charge" rules which have been a pet peeve of mine for years. Hope the rule is a good one and the refs get it right.

 

[cusetown1]

Intention is to benefit the offense – and increase scoring – by limiting hand checking and making it more difficult to draw a charge. Some are expecting a big impact.
Am I wrong to think these new rules will hurt schools that play man-to-man more than those that play a 2-3 zone?

Yes it sounds like it will hurt schools that flop a lot.

 

[OttoinGrotto]

Intention is to benefit the offense – and increase scoring – by limiting hand checking and making it more difficult to draw a charge. Some are expecting a big impact.
Am I wrong to think these new rules will hurt schools that play man-to-man more than those that play a 2-3 zone?

Meh. I'll believe it when I see it.

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[Brooky03]

Louisville guards will have a hell of a time trying to play defense if these rules are implemented correctly

 

[pearl31]

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[SaltLakeOrange]

As far as the charge rule goes, I'll believe it when I see it. Unless the refs start calling the late rotation in the lane calls as charges, nothing will change. This is my recurring nightmare since Atlanta...

 

[Devilsadvocate]

I agree the rule change will hurt those teams that flop a lot, but I'd guess those teams will adjust. They tend to be well-coached.

It would be interesting to see which teams have drawn the most charges over the years. I searched for team stats from last year but couldn't find them. Anyone know if those stats exist?

 

[edowd26]

Intention is to benefit the offense – and increase scoring – by limiting hand checking and making it more difficult to draw a charge. Some are expecting a big impact.
Am I wrong to think these new rules will hurt schools that play man-to-man more than those that play a 2-3 zone?

This rule should render duke and osu irrelevant.

 

[realorange]

As far as the charge rule goes, I'll believe it when I see it. Unless the refs start calling the late rotation in the lane calls as charges, nothing will change. This is my recurring nightmare since Atlanta...

Since Ohio State.

 

[ImperialOrange]

They should call fouls for simulation on players that flop. 2 in a game would get them ejected and make them miss the following game as well. Players that undercut guys in the air while trying to slide in to take a charge should be ejected immediately and face the same suspension. There, I fixed it.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

They should call fouls for simulation on players that flop. 2 in a game would get them ejected and make them miss the following game as well. Players that undercut guys in the air while trying to slide in to take a charge should be ejected immediately and face the same suspension. There, I fixed it.

While I think this would be nearly impossible to do during the games, unless you slowed the game down further still with more video replays, I would love to see something along these lines being taken up by league offices, like they are trying to do in the NBA.

 

[Cusefan0307]

It's the Brandon Triche Rule.

 

[ImperialOrange]

While i think this would be nearly impossible to do during the games, unless you slowed the game down further still with more video replays, I would love to see something along these lines being taken up by league offices, like they are trying to do in the NBA.

They could hand out suspensions after the game perhaps?

My objective wouldn't be to foul guys out but rather encourage them to actully play defense. Similarly, there should be no benefit for and offensive player to innitiate contact with a defender.

 

[CuseFaninVT]

They could hand out suspensions after the game perhaps?

My objective wouldn't be to foul guys out but rather encourage them to actully play defense. Similarly, there should be no benefit for and offensive player to innitiate contact with a defender.

Exactly what I was thinking. I want the kids to play good basketball and not the nonsense sliding in at the last second or just pretending to get hit that drives me nuts. Once Lebron stops flopping at the NBA level (seeing a 260 pound man get run into by a PG and fall down like he was hit by a train drives me nuts) maybe that will filter down to the college and HS levels as well.

 

[Crusty]

I agree - it will hurt man teams more than zone teams. Flop rule will be the opposite.

 

[capeorange]

And Aaron Craft at Ohio State.

 

[orangefan13]

I don't like the thought of suspensions at all. Just call it more frequently. If you want to give a technical for taking out someones legs in midair sure. While they are at it make the charge just a good defensive play instead of a offensive foul. Reward you get the ball. Teams that run offense aroudn their bigs will try to score more in the paint then.

 

[ImperialOrange]

I don't like tite thought of suspensions at all. Just call it more frequently. If you want to give a technical for taking out someones legs in midair sure. While they are at it make the charge just a good defensive play instead of a offensive foul. Reward you get the ball. Teams that run offense aroudn their bigs will try to score more in the paint then.

Perhaps the threat of suspension will make people stop doing it.

I was thinking about this re: cuseinvt's post. At what point does is it become more common for shooters to try and get contact vs get a clean shot off? What point does it become more common for a defender to fall over vs trying for a steal or block? Its certainly not natural. Has anyone here ever played youth or pick up hoops and thought "this shot would be better if I didn't get seperation for an open look"? Have you ever not tried to steal every dripple and swat every shot possible? That's what I would like to see basketball be. If a guy drives into me and bounces off me, that's a bad decision by him vs a foul on me.

 

[orangefan13]

imo, the last thing we need is player suspensions in college ball, for a flop or sliding under someone to prevent a easy 2 points. Two technicals and you are out of the game anyway. If one of our 3 glue guys got that we would be hurting in a tough league like the acc.

You technical let alone suspend someone for trying to injure a player or acting uncontrably. Not for making someone earn it from the free throw line, or attempting to play defense.

 

[ImperialOrange]

imo, the last thing we need is player suspensions in college ball, for a flop or sliding under someone to prevent a easy 2 points. Two technicals and you are out of the game anyway. If one of our 3 glue guys got that we would be hurting in a tough league like the acc.

But aside from fab, who have we had that frequently tried it? I remeber mcw playing d last year and getting cleard with stiff arms but keeping his feet and not getting the foul call. If he falls over he likely does. So which one looks more like a basketball effort play? How about the UM flop that fouled mcw out or the UM slide under triche where the refs took points off the board and called it the other way? Shouldn't a 7 footer be trying to block that shot?

 

[bnoro]

They could call the game perfectly for 30 minutes and still swallow the whistles in the last 10 minutes like Louisville-Wichita last year...

 

[jordoo]

They could call the game perfectly for 30 minutes and still swallow the whistles in the last 10 minutes like Louisville-Wichita last year...

Also like SU Lville in the BET once we had that big lead they decided tostop calling fouls on Lville and it was game over. Yes we blew that game but the way Lville plays the less you call the more aggressive they get. You absolutely have to call fouls on them in the press when they foul our they just turn up the fouling even more. You would think that rf's would understand this but apparently they do not.

 

[Rocco]

The one rule I hate is the "Kobe" rule. Defensive player prematurely jumps in the air, then the shooter just throws himself into him which then gets called as a shooting foul.

I get that the defensive player should hold his ground, but that foul just irks the piss out of me.

 

[jordoo]

The one rule I hate is the "Kobe" rule. Defensive player prematurely jumps in the air, then the shooter just throws himself into him which then gets called as a shooting foul.

I get that the defensive player should hold his ground, but that foul just irks the piss out of me.

Agreed especially when the defender jumps into air space that the offensive guy doesn't occupy. I think that should be an offensive foul if anything. Sure mistiming your jump isn't good defense but you are entitled to the space above you as a defender. In general for basketball hurling your body at any other body should not be rewarded.