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Message: [QUOTE="Rdukeboiler, post: 4890759, member: 9242"] Guys, you kicked our butts this year (Dale is a big part of why), but if he was hired by Oklahoma state I’d post there too. Facts on Dale Williams > had 6 scholarship linemen start games (to this day, including year one of Walters) at Purdue… of 26. > I would have to look, but I believe his only year with Purdue being in the top 100 in rushing was his first year at Purdue. Darrell hazell was an awful coach, but he left behind some tough linemen and defenders. As those players graduated, Dale just never replaced them. > the year before brohm arrived, Kirk Barron was the 4th highest rated OL at Purdue per pff at 74.2. Purdue still hasn’t had an OL rate that high, but in 2020 they had a part time center hit 72, then in 2022, Marcus Mbow and Gus Hartwig were both slightly above 70. In six years. Because Williams is AWFUL. > part of the problem this year, along with previous defensive coaches under brohm, was that when players like Spencer Holstege transferred out, not only were there not p5 guards who had played good p5 football. There was just no one. Even the 2022 commits have all transferred out. Walters had to start with nothing. Marcus Mbow, Gus Hartwig, Mahamane Moussa, two 2023 g5 transfers and NOTHING. > the biggest issue is he just can’t recruit tackles. At all. Brohm constantly had either hazell recruits at the end, converted guards, bad grad transfers. Even this year Marcus Mbow played RT as a concerted guard. His best tackle recruit in 6 years was probably Eric Miller, who peaked this year at 64.4 per pff. There was a good utep transfer and a bunch of meh, in 6 years. This year you saw Marcus Johnson getting the same pff grades out of g5 transfers that Dale could rarely ever get from his own high school recruits. The frustrating part about arguing with Purdue fans over this is that I’ve yet to ever have someone tell me where he had success. The OL rating well at all probably could be attributed to the fact that Jeff brohm had a good passing attack and Aidan Oconnell and David Blough got the ball out fast. The line did pass block well. They were just anemic. You guys kicked our ass in Ross ade, mostly due to Oc Brothers being the defensive equivalent of a lot of williams’ OL. But I wouldn’t wish this on Indiana Fans If you guys had gotten say mark hagen or Brad lambert as one of your coaches, or Jamarcus shephard, I’d be here telling you you got a good one. [/QUOTE]

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