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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 468044, member: 628"] I'm confused, are you saying that BB and team DIDN'T think they could win a Super Bowl in Cleveland? Anyway, my point was lost when people jumped on me saying SU will never win a national title. I just think the notion that Cleveland and KC are places where no one of any ability can ever win, ever, is a bit silly. Hell, we have an NFL playoff starting that includes Cincinnati, Washington and Seattle. You don't have to go back too many years to find people who thought those were dead-end jobs too. [/QUOTE]