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Message: [QUOTE="CorduroyG, post: 2910013, member: 1011"] its not just that we cant beat the upper tier acc teams, we cant even compete with them. nc state aint even upper tier and they spanked us. and i dont wanna hear about the duke win, they lose by 20 if jones and reddish played. tonite was flat out embarassing. hughes, battle, brissett were they serious tonite????? frank stunk too but at least he actually made some shots. this team plays with zero sense of urgency. i miss syracuse basketball, i got zero enjoyment watching this game. not for 1 second was i excited about a play or a run or a shot they made, could tell the first 5 minutes this was gonna be ugly and their only hope was nc state would score 24 pts again. pathetic. [/QUOTE]