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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 316326, member: 628"] Let me ask you... were the Yankees "irrelevant" between 1978 and 1996? They weren't necessarily good most of the time, obviously, but were they irrelevant? The answer, as much as it pains me to say, is no. Are the Cubs irrelevant? There is literally no one ALIVE since they last won anything. Some brands transcend being a perennial championship-caliber team. Not many, but a handful. ND has still won 9+ games 6 times in the past 15 seasons. They aren't world beaters, but 9+ wins gets people watching on TV, and gets high school kids to sign letters of intent. It's not like they've been going 3-9 every season. They've been just good enough, that's all that matters. As long as ND is decent, with the occasional better-than-decent season, they'll be as relevant as any program in the country. [/QUOTE]