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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 316360, member: 628"] ND has beaten out just about every school you mentioned for recruits recently, for at least someone. And listing those other schools was kind of my point -- "ND kids" ain't choosing those schools after seeing South Bend. Sure some kids are going to choose Michigan and Ohio State, but some aren't. That's the way it's been for decades. I know it's fun to preach doom-and-gloom for ND, but it's not reality. I mean it's been how long since they won a title? Shouldn't they have cratered by now if it was going to happen? Kelly's had back-to-back 8-5 seasons. Let him notch a 10-2 and that'll propel them for another 5 years. [/QUOTE]