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Message: [QUOTE="orangecuse, post: 5232497, member: 668"] Spot on post. Having a losing record in the ACC, even with this season's quite favorable conference schedule, is pretty much same ol same ol for us since we have been in the ACC. Other than the '18 season (which was a statistical outlier from an actuarial stand point) we have consistently been under .500 in conference. A conference mind you, that has (being kind) been nothing more than mediocre at best sans Clemson. [/QUOTE]