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Message: [QUOTE="Scooch, post: 98684, member: 628"] I get what you're saying, but I'm talking more about feel than results, if that makes any sense? Basically I was utterly despondent following SU football, particularly from 2006-2008, when it was abundantly clear that we had a historically incompetent boob coaching our team. I have a hard time understanding why someone would have renewed their season tickets for the 2008 season, when a chimp flinging feces could have drawn up a better gameplan than GumpRob, yet would dump them now, a year removed from an encouraging season? I mean I know your feelings about Marrone IB, but I suspect even you wouldn't say that the guy could never coach us to at least 6 or 7 win seasons? I would say that we at least have hope for medicority now, as opposed to before when we just aspired to not vomit all over ourselves more than 9 times a year. [/QUOTE]