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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2647035, member: 652"] 2007 SB was all the Giants D. I will give a little more to Manning in the 2nd SB he wasn’t Foles good in either though. The Giants have won when their D has been good. Eli hasn’t been good enough to carry them with the crap defenses Brady and Brees have had. The Pats only good defenses were in his first 4 years after that 2003 AFC title game where Peyton/Polian got the rules changed that is when Belichick took the handcuffs off and became more offensive because the Colts bitched and got the rules changed. The Pats won these last 2 SBs with average to above average Ds and an elite coaching staff and offense. The difference between Brady and Brees has been coaching. I do think Brady is slightly better but he likely only wins 2-3 SBs with a Payton. Belichick’s coaching has given him the extra titles. [/QUOTE]