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Message: [QUOTE="ssbriefcase, post: 2727089, member: 883"] Yeah I know, that's why I left off how defenses speared qb's on every play they could, because all those qb's got that treatment then. I was just laying out why I think his stats even for that era weren't better. He was always going to throw picks, being pretty much the original gunslinger with no weapons, he was going to force his throws. Our defenses in the era also ensured, Elway was going to be on the field a lot more than off (It might just be me, but I think the prevent d was a Broncos staple before any other team used it). Reeves didn't help, with his style. I like Brees, and respect him a lot for all he's done. [/QUOTE]