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Message: [QUOTE="MikeSU02, post: 2732751, member: 60"] I would put Eli in my own third tier of QBs (borderline HoFers): All-time: All timers that can be in the argument for best ever (eg: Brady, Manning). Elite: Next-level that won't be on the mt rushmore of QBs, but are the next level down but still absolute locks for the HoF and likely have a SB ring or appearances (eg: Drew Brees, Jim Kelly) Very good: Either peaked super high but the ride didn't last long or were good over a long period of time (eg: Eli for the second part of that description) Good: Quality QBs that could make elite throws but would also work the system (eg: Boomer Esiason) Not sure what the argument is. Eli is a very good QB. He'll likely get in the HoF. That's a great career. He isn't as good as Brady or Rodgers or Brees, but barely anyone else is. [/QUOTE]