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Message: [QUOTE="Ryand877, post: 2836546, member: 1870"] Don't mind the idea. I do think it should be 4th and 17 or 4th and 20, I don't think 15 is enough. IMO you want the gamble to be there in trying to keep possession. I'm just talking out loud. Does anyone have percentages/stats on 4th and 15th conversions or 4th and 20, etc-would love to see those. IMO the chance to keep possession should be 15 percent or less. [/QUOTE]

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