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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 2859802, member: 652"] Brees and Ben have played at pro bowl levels the last 5 years. Ryan has won an MVP and been a top 10 QB. Rivers has played at a pro bowl level this year and these past 5 years. Since 2013 Eli has been a middle of the road to bottom half of the league QB. Sorry but all those guys you have cited have played at higher level since Eli won his 2nd SB. I just looked at the careers of Eli, Ben, Rivers it is so laughable how you defend Eli. [URL='https://www.footballdb.com/stats/qb-records.html']NFL Quarterback Win/Loss Records | The Football Database[/URL] I give Eli has two SBs those are huge but his seasons are just not ever top of the league. Not one time. Eli is Joe Flacco with 5 more years playing and more importantly a 2nd SB. [/QUOTE]