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Message: [QUOTE="ForCuseSake, post: 2861544, member: 266"] The collective futility of the Bills, Jets and Dolphins since 2002 could easily be seen as not trying. Every division has had a bottom feeder or two; or even a rotating cellar dweller but the AFC East has taken it to a new level. The point I’m making is yes, the Patriots would certainly have had fewer HFA In the playoffs had just one of the three clowns in their division risen up to compete more than 3 times in 16 years. I don’t get how this is considered such a controversial position. Again, I’m not saying the Pats suck or would suck in another division. I’m saying their success would probably not be at the same level if they were in a different division. It’s far easier to dominate the NFL if you’re guaranteed 4-6 divisional wins every year. [/QUOTE]