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Message: [QUOTE="Alsacs, post: 3025504, member: 652"] I do when you factor in the fact Ben has had a top 5 OL, well above average RB and Juju and Antonio Brown. Ben has gotten a pass. His weapons have been top of the league and he has been elite at home and average on the road. Trubisky was awful his rookie year and Nagy coached him up last year. I am not saying Ben is a bum I just think the guy has slipped the last few years when you look at QB play across the league and the weapons Ben has had. He hasn’t carried an inferior roster. [/QUOTE]