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Message: [QUOTE="upperdeck, post: 3140917, member: 474"] you look at the bottom picture and do it in real time and you decide which one looks like the penalty. and i didnt think it was a good call, but the oline clearly sold it and at speed its not that easy to see.. its not like the refs are really looking at 2 guys they have 10-12-14 guys to look at sometimes. the same with hands to the face.. you can touch the face it cant be forceful and extended contact. the same for facemask penalties. a glancing touch of the mask can get ignored even if the fingers pull a small amount. the ref who called it is behind the Lions DE. all he can see is a hand and the Packers head extended back for a long time. [/QUOTE]