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Message: [QUOTE="Guinness, post: 3508902, member: 244"] Not even close to top 5. Collins is on the DL replaced by a FA rookie. Frederick retired replaced by a jag. Smith is still better than most but is a shell of his former HoF self. Martin is still really good probably top 3 at his position. Connor Williams is a second round pick that has yet to live up to his potential. So right now they have basically 2 guys on the field that would make another teams roster and it showed Monday night. Aaron Donald ate them alive. Which is why it makes even LESS sense they would roll out last years offense with it's long patterns instead of something more akin to what the Rams played. [/QUOTE]