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[QUOTE="Finwad32, post: 3603471, member: 651"]
HOF is HOF - and Eli’s going before Phil. Simms was good, he wasn’t cream of crop. He was probably top 10, not top 5.

NFC East was cream of crop in the 1990’s, a decade where Phil played 40 games over 4 seasons. In their most successful season in the 90’s, Hostetler won the games we remember.

My point is, Simms is not slam dunk better. Imo, he’s not really better at all.

And the argument that Eli won because of defense, was the Giants offense the reason Phil won all his games? LT and that crew might disagree.

Phil brought the Giants past the Divisional round once. And in 15 seasons (including 1990) had 8 above .500. His career completion % was 5 points lower than Eli’s, passer rating was 6 points lower than Eli and his TD/Int ratio was 1.26, Eli’s was 1.5...

And before Mcapoopoo took over, Eli was 24 games over .500 for his career.

But I can certainly understand and appreciate the argument to the other side. They were both very good, Phil’s just not higher on my pedestal.
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