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[QUOTE="DMDMD, post: 3687315, member: 4309"]
We can talk about this if you want, but I’ll just put a few thoughts.
1) I believe women, period. The number of false accusations of rape, violence etc is vanishingly small.
2) the chiefs have kicked very very good players off the team for less than what tyreek was accused of. Cleveland Browns running back Kareem Hunt for one. I supported that absolutely.
3) In this case specifically, it is clear something happened between tyreek and his then girlfriend in 2014 at Oklahoma state.
4) there is good reason to doubt what exactly tyreek pled to really happened. Specifically a recording she herself made and released to reporters. During that taped conversation tyreek states specifically that his girlfriend lied and states that while he picked her up, he put her outside. They speak specifically about the accusations of hitting being a lie. His girlfriend did not on the recording and has not since denied that was the case.

so. Has tyreek done something* bad. Yes. Unequivocally yes. Is what he did as bad as what he pled to?  There is good reason to doubt that’s the case. There has never been another hint of an accusation of violence. The thing with his son is also entirely unclear. Unlike hunt, who pretty regularly got into fights on the Plaza, which did not make the media.
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