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Message: [QUOTE="chugg21, post: 3714315, member: 3360"] I think Carr is a lot better than those guys you are lumping him in with. He's not tier 1 by any means but he's somewhere in that 12-15 range. Stats/Metrics he was top 12 in this year, Comp%, Yards, TDs, Int%, Yds/A, AY/A, QB rating, QBR, GWD. Stats/Metrics he was top 12 last year, Comp%, Yards, Int%, Yds/A, AY/A, QB rating, QBR, GWD PFF has him as a top 10 QB too. Honestly surprised by how good he rates by both regular and advanced stats. I'm far from a Carr stan and don't give a single crap about him but he may actually be way better than we think he is because the Raiders always have garbage at WR and on D. [/QUOTE]