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Message: [QUOTE="kingtidge, post: 5001037, member: 994"] Show me where he said making the tournament in his first year in charge is the standard... Newsflash - you made that up. He spoke about winning in general... He said nothing about making the NCAA tournament vs. the NIT as a benchmark for success or failure. That's what you interjected as your expectations. Go re-watch it yourself - @ about the 15-minute mark: [MEDIA=dailymotion]x8j04bd[/MEDIA] Red has done a really good job thus far IMO and to call him out for not making the NCAA in the year-1 rebuild is one word - ridiculous. We just finished our first 20-win regular season in a decade in his first year in charge. Obviously, if that's not enough winning for you in the year-1, so be it. Everyone has their opinions but you don't speak for anyone else (as you implied you do.) And if that is not program snobbery, I don't know what is. [/QUOTE]