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Message: [QUOTE="Orangezoo, post: 4147723, member: 237"] The most frustrating thing is that with Buddy Jimmy and Joe - there just isn't much more they can do to improve. Joe is a streaky player and Buddy and Jimmy have done everything to max out their games. It's no fault to either of them they don't have another level they can get to. That next level is mainly just with having a better supporting case vs something they can really do. With 4 and 5 years already invested, they have done as much as you could realistically ask given their limitations as athletes. [/QUOTE]