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Message: [QUOTE="cmr27, post: 43619, member: 215"] Good post. Can't disagree with much of this. I would clarify that the ball bounces randomly but the creation of fumble opportunities has something to do with skill. That's neither here nor there for purposes of this discussion though. I guess my point is that we can't discount the WF win because of the QB injury. SU had to put itself in a position to capitalize on the injury and then actually win the game, in other words... every team gets breaks during the season, but not every team capitalizes. More broadly, I don't think we know if this is a good team or not. It's a winning team but you have to couch that statement in college football because everyone tries to schedule for success. The story of this team is still to be written. And I totally agree re Greggors. [/QUOTE]