northwestern and Oregon state

[CU44SE]

must have much more talent then Notre Dame and Arizona St. respectively. The only explanation why they were able to win this weekend!

 

[Crusty]

must have much more talent then Notre Dame and Arizona St. respectively. The only explanation why they were able to win this weekend!

Hmmmm, do I detect a mild note of sarcasm?

 

[CU44SE]

Hmmmm, do I detect a mild note of sarcasm?

Lol, I think you know where I stand on this from previous posts. Northwestern even tied the turnover battle 4-4. Imagine if they won the turnover battle 5-1 against ND like we did? Been saying since day one ND would lose at least three games and everyone here was acting like it was a moral victory losing by less then 20 against a top flight team when we turned them over 5 times.

 

[Alsacs]

Our offensive coaching staff is embarrassingly not good or original. Our talent is not great but the material we have is not as bad as the performance on the field.

 

[upperdeck]

nw and ore st have vastly more talent on offense then we do.. we dont have single player who would start for ore st on offense at the skill positions.

 

[SUFan44]

nw and ore st have vastly more talent on offense then we do.. we dont have single player who would start for ore st on offense at the skill positions.

We have players comparable. Maybe not the 1 or 2 best guys, but absolutely comparable.

Scheme is extremely important. We couldn't outscheme some high school teams in the first half of the year.

 

[upperdeck]

We have players comparable. Maybe not the 1 or 2 best guys, but absolutely comparable.

Scheme is extremely important. We couldn't outscheme some high school teams in the first half of the year.

we are too slow at the key skill positions.. i think people dont realize how much we scheme just to get people into spots. we cant even run the offense we want because we have to scheme everything.. add in the oline injuries and qb play.

 

[PhatOrange]

Love how people cherry pick a couple of upsets - whoopdeedoo

 

[alphaorange]

Love how people cherry pick a couple of upsets - whoopdeedoo

Pretty sure you mean whoopdeeDAMNdoo...signed Derrick Coleman

 

[TheCusian]

Our offensive coaching staff is embarrassingly not good or original. Our talent is not great but the material we have is not as bad as the performance on the field.

I don't think anyone can say anything definitive about Lester as OC yet.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

Starting RT, LG, RG, TE and two QBs have all missed games with injuries. McDonald's scheme was sound he just had no feel for play calling. Lester is handcuffed by injuries. Unfortunately we fans will have to wait 9 months to see how Lester does with a full team.

 

[CU44SE]

Starting RT, LG, RG, TE and two QBs have all missed games with injuries. McDonald's scheme was sound he just had no feel for play calling. Lester is handcuffed by injuries. Unfortunately we fans will have to wait 9 months to see how Lester does with a full team.

The team was pretty healthy against ND...

 

[CU44SE]

Love how people cherry pick a couple of upsets - whoopdeedoo

The point, which you are over looking is that we lost to ND 31-15 and won the turnover battle 5-1. Northwestern played at ND, tied the turnover battle 4-4 and won by 3 in overtime. They are a team with similar talent as us against a common opponent and we got smoked and they won. It's not even that we lost, it's how we lost.

 

[TheCusian]

The point, which you are over looking is that we lost to ND 31-15 and won the turnover battle 5-1. Northwestern played at ND, tied the turnover battle 4-4 and won by 3 in overtime. They are a team with similar talent as us against a common opponent and we got smoked and they won. It's not even that we lost, it's how we lost.

Game smacks of weird upset CFB is known for. We are better on O and D then NW, by the stats.

 

[sabach]

Notre Dame ' s coaching left a lot to be desired on Saturday.

 

[Dmcnabbrules]

The team was pretty healthy against ND...

McDonald was calling plays then. My point was that we won't know too much about Lester until next season.

 

[Hoo's That]

Notre Dame ' s coaching left a lot to be desired on Saturday.

The folks on NDNation.com would heartily agree. They weren't too enthused w/Kelly coming into this year and Sat. is being viewed as one of the worst losses ever.

 

[PhatOrange]

The point, which you are over looking is that we lost to ND 31-15 and won the turnover battle 5-1. Northwestern played at ND, tied the turnover battle 4-4 and won by 3 in overtime. They are a team with similar talent as us against a common opponent and we got smoked and they won. It's not even that we lost, it's how we lost.

i'm not over looking anything. transitive property doesn't work. you're cherry picking an upset to prove a point that doesn't work.

We beat Central Michigan who beat Northern Illinois who beat Northwestern who beat Notre Dame.

We beat Central Michigan who beat Purdue who beat Illinois who beat Minnesota who beat Northwestern who beat Notre Dame

 

[Oakland]

And talking about uniforms, I watched a little of that game, the OST unis looked like they were from the Tron movie except they forgot to turn the lights on them and it wasn't dark outside. And was it Miami with the charcoal grey unis? The Cuse has a lot of uni company this season.

must have much more talent then Notre Dame and Arizona St. respectively. The only explanation why they were able to win this weekend!

 

[KaiserUEO]

I don't think anyone can say anything definitive about Lester as OC yet.

thats the excuse given to someone who doesnt look like a star out of the gate.

hes replaceable.

but its moot.

the smart play is to FIRE SS...and lester gets swept out with the trash.

 

[CU44SE]

i'm not over looking anything. transitive property doesn't work. you're cherry picking an upset to prove a point that doesn't work.

We beat Central Michigan who beat Northern Illinois who beat Northwestern who beat Notre Dame.

We beat Central Michigan who beat Purdue who beat Illinois who beat Minnesota who beat Northwestern who beat Notre Dame

Ya, our only wins are on the luck of a missed fg to a FCS school, a central Michigan team without its best player, and a wake forest team which has less yards rushing (342 yards)in 10 games then Melvin Gordon had in 3 quarters against Nebraska 408 yds. Good company, why should I expect better.

 

[tep624]

Ya, our only wins are on the luck of a missed fg to a FCS school, a central Michigan team without its best player, and a wake forest team which has less yards rushing (342 yards)in 10 games then Melvin Gordon had in 3 quarters against Nebraska 408 yds. Good company, why should I expect better.

Ok so you consider personnel missing a valid reason for a team that we have played to lose, but missing personnel is a completely invalid excuse for why we have lost some games. Got it.

 

[CU44SE]

Ok so you consider personnel missing a valid reason for a team that we have played to lose, but missing personnel is a completely invalid excuse for why we have lost some games. Got it.

Hmmmm, im not exactly sure what post you were reading but it couldn't have been mine because I didn't say anything about our losses due to injuries. Could you please point out where I was discussing the games involving the injuries? People were saying a lack of talent prior to injuries were the reason we were losing to "then" superior teams in Maryland and ND; made excuses when there were no injuries of why we were losing. Those excuses have now turned from lack of talent or offensive coordinator issues to injury excuses, but this is not the point for the coach apologists on this board. MY WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD, is that those excuses now look silly and downright wrong. Losing to ND 31-15 when you force 5 turnovers is not acceptable and people were righting it off because they appeared to be a National title contender and we played them close!!! Even though the game was really never in doubt and here a NW team is with similar talent to us when we played ND and went into ND and turned the ball over 4 times and still managed to win 43-40.

 

[Crusty]

Hmmmm, im not exactly sure what post you were reading but it couldn't have been mine because I didn't say anything about our losses due to injuries. Could you please point out where I was discussing the games involving the injuries? People were saying a lack of talent prior to injuries were the reason we were losing to "then" superior teams in Maryland and ND; made excuses when there were no injuries of why we were losing. Those excuses have now turned from lack of talent or offensive coordinator issues to injury excuses, but this is not the point for the coach apologists on this board. MY WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD, is that those excuses now look silly and downright wrong. Losing to ND 31-15 when you force 5 turnovers is not acceptable and people were righting it off because they appeared to be a National title contender and we played them close!!! Even though the game was really never in doubt and here a NW team is with similar talent to us when we played ND and went into ND and turned the ball over 4 times and still managed to win 43-40.

Similar talent but not with the same injuries. Transitive properties simply never work in sports because of all important matchups. There is no way tom settle the degree to which injuries | talent | coaching affected the season or even a game. It is simply a matter of opinion - including yours.

 

[tep624]

Hmmmm, im not exactly sure what post you were reading but it couldn't have been mine because I didn't say anything about our losses due to injuries. Could you please point out where I was discussing the games involving the injuries? People were saying a lack of talent prior to injuries were the reason we were losing to "then" superior teams in Maryland and ND; made excuses when there were no injuries of why we were losing. Those excuses have now turned from lack of talent or offensive coordinator issues to injury excuses, but this is not the point for the coach apologists on this board. MY WHOLE POINT OF THIS THREAD, is that those excuses now look silly and downright wrong. Losing to ND 31-15 when you force 5 turnovers is not acceptable and people were righting it off because they appeared to be a National title contender and we played them close!!! Even though the game was really never in doubt and here a NW team is with similar talent to us when we played ND and went into ND and turned the ball over 4 times and still managed to win 43-40.

You didn't start a thread titled "Sick of the Excuses" where you were ragging on SU fans for excusing the loss to NC St. because of injuries? I must have you confused with another Clev04 then, my mistake. The other Clev04 and you post the same stuff over and over again so I guess it's an easy mistake to make.